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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2013, 11:23:54 AM »

I would try it, but I got rid of all my vinyl years ago. I'm considering buying a few albums I enjoy in this format, as I'm a sucker for nostalgia.

I only ask because I don't want to waste my time if it's not even worth a mention.

I used to work for the Technics service centre in the days those were new to the market.
It was an entry market DirectDrive player and not as well damped chassis as the more expensive ones.
Fully automatic and quartz controlled (so no speed control).
The platter was relatively lightweight compared to the more expensive ones yet had low wow and flutter.
Not sure if it were these types but remember some of these DD turntables didn't respond well to those weights you can put on the platter as it threw off the servo-loop making the wow and flutter worse,
It is mainly limited in use by the T4P cartridge mount.
Never saw a lot of them, meaning either they didn't sell very well or they were good quality.
No belts and I thought the moving arm was powered from the platter as well so pretty rugged unless the arm was obstructed while moving.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2013, 09:52:27 PM »

I find it interesting that the ClearAudio Master Reference is one of a few TT's I've seen use a B&O style arm.

I.e. - one that stays tangential to the groove, at all times.
(genius idea for keeping groove wear to a minimum, IMO)

of similar interest:

The Thales Original

History of tangential tracking --> http://www.soundfountain.com/amb/ttrabco.html
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2013, 12:18:38 AM »

Yeah, the McIntosh table is repulsive. Kinda has that "porn shoot" vibe mixed with "80s vampire club." So I like it.

But wouldn't buy it because honestly, for 10 grand there are other tables I'd much rather have.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2013, 03:39:03 AM »

Gah no front panel meters! How will it light up my room like a battlefield now? I so hate the McIntosh look.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2013, 04:10:20 AM »

Gah no front panel meters! How will it light up my room like a battlefield now? I so hate the McIntosh look.
Hey, hey hey! I have family who assemble and test these things... please, respect the meter!  :)p3
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2013, 04:51:49 AM »

Gah no front panel meters! How will it light up my room like a battlefield now? I so hate the McIntosh look.

It looks like it was rescued from the set of Playboy After Dark.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2013, 05:52:55 AM »

That new Zanden SS phono pre is odd too. Zanden stuff is normally achingly gorgeous, this thing looks like the bottom of a golden cow.

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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2013, 03:28:53 PM »

I find it interesting that the ClearAudio Master Reference is one of a few TT's I've seen use a B&O style arm.

I.e. - one that stays tangential to the groove, at all times.
(genius idea for keeping groove wear to a minimum, IMO)

of similar interest:

The Thales Original

History of tangential tracking --> http://www.soundfountain.com/amb/ttrabco.html

With most linear trackers the stylus isn't actually tangential to the groove at all times. Physically the cartridge body is. I would like to see some actual distortion measurements of these arms opposed to the usual marketing rhetoric "your records were cut like this, shouldn't they be played back like this?"

The Forsell does have a very good linear arm. I'd be interested in hearing the Terminator if it didn't look like an amateur DIY project. The other problem with most linear tracking arms is they use air pumps which are very noisy, so most people run long tubes with the pump going to a dampened closet or even another room. Personally seems like a lot of hassle to me when a Phantom Supreme II tracks exceptionally well and sounds amazing.
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