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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2013, 05:39:44 PM »
Quote from: gurubhai on May 26, 2013, 03:38:01 PM
Hi guys,

I am completely new to the vinyl scene and was looking to grab a turntable to get started. I am being offered a Technics SL-10 here locally, do you think it would be a good choice for a beginner ?

The SL-10 is certainly an interesting design, it looks more like a big CD player than what we normally think of as a TT. Supposedly sounded pretty good in its day. They are apparently not easy to service though due in part to the very compact design, so it would have to be in good working order to be worth anything. Also, apparently finding a cart that will fit ain't so easy either. You have to use T4P type carts. I think the SL-10 is probably more of an interesting oddity for vintage vinyl collectors than a good starting place. Upgradeability is pretty much zero, and when something breaks, finding a part or even somebody who knows these things and what to do with them will be a challenge. I'm not sure that the advantages of the linear tracking arm are worth the inevitable headaches. Most Technics fans would likely push you towards an SL-1200 variant instead.




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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2013, 06:00:07 AM »
I think a turntable with a traditional tonearm would be better personally. Look for a direct-drive, .5" mount Technics.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2013, 10:31:23 AM »
Quote from: DaveBSC on May 26, 2013, 05:39:44 PM

The SL-10 is certainly an interesting design, it looks more like a big CD player than what we normally think of as a TT. Supposedly sounded pretty good in its day. They are apparently not easy to service though due in part to the very compact design, so it would have to be in good working order to be worth anything. Also, apparently finding a cart that will fit ain't so easy either. You have to use T4P type carts. I think the SL-10 is probably more of an interesting oddity for vintage vinyl collectors than a good starting place. Upgradeability is pretty much zero, and when something breaks, finding a part or even somebody who knows these things and what to do with them will be a challenge. I'm not sure that the advantages of the linear tracking arm are worth the inevitable headaches. Most Technics fans would likely push you towards an SL-1200 variant instead.

I had similar concerns too.
The seller has assured me that it is in fully working condition. In-fact, he is the original owner and says that he uses it regularly.
The pictures he has sent me also suggest that it has been well cared for.
I can get a SL-1200(original) as well but that one would cost me twice that of the SL-10 and its cosmetic condition is nowhere as good as the latter.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2013, 10:54:40 AM »
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Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2013, 02:05:24 PM »
It is people like Analogsurvivor that drag you into this hobby by sheer enthusiasm...

I just had to read his posts.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2013, 04:50:24 PM »
Quote from: shipsupt on May 29, 2013, 10:54:40 AM
More than you ever wanted to know about the SL-10 -- http://www.head-fi.org/t/549616/post-a-photograph-of-your-turntable/1410#post_9241645

Thanks. That certainly made up my mind. :)
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2013, 08:57:53 PM »
Quote from: Deep Funk on May 29, 2013, 02:05:24 PM
It is people like Analogsurvivor that drag you into this hobby by sheer enthusiasm...

I just had to read his posts.

Indeed, really interesting stuff... but some of it makes it sound like these linear tracking SLs were the second coming of Jesus. They aren't. There are some definite advantages to the design, but I maintain that an SL-1200 with a Rega arm and a real cart will school one of these tables six ways from Sunday. In theory linear tracking arms should beat pivoted arms, but there's a BIG difference between an SL-10 or one of its variants and say, this guy.

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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2013, 09:16:47 PM »
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2013, 01:23:53 AM »
Quote from: OJneg on May 29, 2013, 09:16:47 PM
This was on reddit yesterday. Thought I'd share.

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/meet-your-maker-hi-fi-visits-rega-research/

Cool. I have mixed feelings about Rega overall. At the entry level especially I think they do pretty well, and their arms are good... to a point. Their high-end line seems at odds with their design philosophy though, and what I've seen of them has not been impressive. Also, Rega carts are at best mediocre. Also this:

Hi-Fi+: Why don’t Rega tonearms offer provisions for VTA/SRA adjustment?

RG: Basically, knowing what we do about tolerances for stylus positioning within cartridge cantilevers, we do not really accept that the concept of VTA adjustment is valid or beneficial...

Again at the entry level that's fine, most customers at that level are not going to be interesting in messing with VTA or stylus rake anyway. At the high-end though, I'm sorry but that just doesn't fly.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #59 on: May 30, 2013, 06:29:09 AM »
Would you mind explaining more Dave? I didn't realize Rega's arms didn't have VTA (or SRA?) adjustment. I thought that was a standard feature for most "hi-fi" tonearms.

Would it make adjusting for certain cartridges difficult on Rega arms?
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