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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2014, 01:52:51 AM »

Couldn't help myself... added more to the pr0n stash. The Dr. Feickert is one of my favorite high-end models, and the ridiculous Shindo restoration of the Garrard 301 is IMO one of the most beautiful turntables of all time. The price is absurd for a restoration, but like 80% of the turntable is new stuff Shindo-san added. New bearing, new plinth, new tonearm, etc.

Love the looks of this one...

Yeah! Personally, I'm all for more "classic" looking tables. In other words solid rectangular or rounded-corner plinths with intelligent material choice and construction, integrated short-distance belts, et cetera.

Well Tempered is known for very clever, elegant engineering using idiosyncratic approaches. Their tonearm for instance uses an actual golf ball...

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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2014, 02:08:28 AM »

And just so I'm not leaving out more reasonably priced tables, here are some of my favs:

Funk Firm Little Superdeck:



Well Tempered Simplex:


The name is a bit unfortunate... reminds me of herpes. Ugh.

SOTA Comet III:


Kuzma Stabi S:


Pink Triangle Anniversary:


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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #102 on: February 25, 2014, 03:01:00 AM »

The Dr. Feickert is one of my favorite high-end models

Me too, along with Amazon. Speaking of pr0n, don't forget this guy:

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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #103 on: February 25, 2014, 03:22:01 AM »

Ah, yeah, the Kronos. A bit out of my league but very neat with its counter spinning platters. A similar concept on a [relatively] less expensive table:





The 47 Labs Koma

I don't have any first hand experience with 47 Labs, but the designer is really intriguing and makes some great stuff like the PiTracer and Treasure CD players:



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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #104 on: February 25, 2014, 03:24:40 AM »

Yeah! Personally, I'm all for more "classic" looking tables. In other words solid rectangular or rounded-corner plinths with intelligent material choice and construction, integrated short-distance belts, et cetera.

Well Tempered is known for very clever, elegant engineering using idiosyncratic approaches. Their tonearm for instance uses an actual golf ball...



Me too, one of the reasons I love my VPI Classic 3.

And golf ball?  Genius.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #105 on: March 01, 2014, 06:47:58 PM »

Continuing on with my parade of turntable pornography---and in the spirit of my diatribes on design methodology and implementation---I thought I'd take a moment to post about different drive systems.

Recently I discovered a brand I had never heard of before called TTWeights. They manufacture "rim drive" turntables with optional copper platters (weighing 40lbs!).





The last picture shows a close up of the "rim drive" system.



Transrotor makes some really impressive magnetic drive systems.


La Roccia Reference TMD
Has a solid stone plinth... very handsome.


Rondino FMD
Comes in black and white/gold finishes as well.


Fat Bob Reference TMD
I had a chance to listen to the Fat Bob not too long ago, and IMO it bested a similarly priced table from Avid and TW Acustics.



Another example of magnetic drive is the exceedingly minimalistic Brinkmann Bardo...




It uses a direct drive system with a motor that has field coils, so direct magnetic drive in some sense. I think there's definitely something to direct drive, and in theory it provides a number of advantages over belt drive. However it comes down, once again, to implementation. That should be my mantra: implementation.... implementation. The demands it puts on the motor are intense, so the motor has to be extremely high quality and quite advanced to cope without having any cogging effects. For the most part, direct drive was found among lower cost decks in the 70s and 80s which did not have the requisite motor technology to really take advantage of it. The world class (and quite costly) Goldmund Studio in the 80s was direct drive however, and since then it's shown up in some of the very best tables. These days it's especially trendy in the high-end market. VPI makes a direct drive version of their Classic that costs roughly $22k. That's $18k more than the standard Classic!



Kodo's turntable is exceedingly awkward to type and say.
It's literally called "The Beat."
Not The Kodo Beat, but The Kodo The Beat.

It's quite a lovely table, and included in its hefty price is a service where the designer will travel to your home to set everything up for you and teach you how to do the same. He'll even eat your food free of charge! I kid. Maybe.




What makes The Beat such an interesting contender is its magnetic drive system that neither uses belts (like the Fat Bob) or is direct drive in the tradition sense (like the Bardo). That's because the motor never comes into physical contact with the platter.



Really though, it's another belt drive table that has caught my eye... the AMG Viella 12 and matching tonearm:





The tonearm in particular has a curious piece of engineering: a vertical bearing whose inspiration came from the rotorheads of helicopters. Overall, I like the pulled together look that is self-contained but still have a bit of flourish.



Thanks in part to Donald's endorsement, I'm really anxious to try linear tracking again. The Kuzma Stabi Ref. and Airline are practically ubiquitous now.



I've just never been that fond of Kuzma's aesthetic, particularly in the Stabi Ref.

In contrast, the airbearing turntables from Bergmann are achingly beautiful in their simplicity.






Because, y'know, the Walker Black Diamond is out of reach for me at this point in time...






Though the Transrotor Argos is prettier IMO.


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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #106 on: March 01, 2014, 08:10:40 PM »

Ah so many beautiful tables, so little time. Some of my favs:











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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #107 on: March 01, 2014, 08:15:47 PM »

The sex appeal of a Teres for what they cost is off the freaking charts.




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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #108 on: March 01, 2014, 08:40:30 PM »

Huh, I didn't know you found balls sexy, Dave.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #109 on: March 01, 2014, 09:03:20 PM »

Huh, I didn't know you found balls sexy, Dave.

Lol yup. As impressive as the 460 is, I prefer the balls in acrylic.

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