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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2012, 05:23:40 PM »

Gosh Muppet, I'd have have to agree with Spritzer. I've seriously considered getting the R10s myself, but I lost interest after having heard and seen a few pairs, and measured one pair (albeit known to have on defective channel). In terms of the bass light thing or not, I even wonder if that's partially related to deterioration.


On the topic of classic STAX, I like those little SR-X.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2012, 05:31:39 PM »

I've always liked the design on the SR-X.  It looks sturdy, though the reviews I've read have been ambivalent about its sound quality.

Are there any other Stax, classic or not, with the comfort and sturdiness of the SR007s?  I've heard a few lambdas and I'm afraid the plastic housing will break on my head.  The SR202 felt especially flimsy, and this talk of Omega deterioration is worrisome.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2012, 05:59:05 PM »

yes. the sr-202 does feel bit flimsy. i'm afraid of breaking them every time i handle them but they have proven to be more durable at times than i thought. the pro's housing though feels bit more solid to me.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2012, 06:28:31 PM »

Bass level on R10s is based on driver number and deterioration of the foam rings.  There were 4 different drivers made for the R10 and I remember reading that the whole bass heavy/light thing was done to target different markets (bass heavy for US customers/bass light for Japanese customers).  There's an old thread on HC with more info. 

I find most Stax to be quite comfortable.  Actually I think the SR-5 and 4070 are the only two I've had that I couldn't wear for a long period of time without a short break.  I'm not really a fan of the new arc assembly either.  The older Lambdas are deceivingly durable, they should last forever with proper care.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2012, 08:02:02 PM »

The SR-X Mk3 Pro is certainly one of the best headphones Stax ever made.  Makes the SR-Omega seem common and abundant as most wound up in Pro use in Japan. 

Hate the SR-507 frame but it seems to work well for more petite heads. 

What could cause the SR-Omega housing to fail short of like dropping them? I recall from our correspondence that keeping the outer screws secure would prevent any catastrophic failure. This is Deepak btw  :-*

Like so many plastics these don't seem to hold up too well.  Now using metal screws into tiny bits of brittle plastic is never a good idea, then add 20 years and it becomes a problem.  I've been sent two sets with crumbling frames but I can only guess at the cause.  The eventual plan is to do a clone of the SR-Omega housing and do it properly with milled PEEK frame for the drivers and a much thicker aluminum or titanium shell.  The cost will be astronomical but that's nothing new for mafia projects...  :)

Speaking of crazy projects, do you just happen to have a spare HE90 shell and a lot of extra Lambda drivers?  Well then you need something like this:



They should sound lovely with LNS drivers...   :P
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2012, 12:23:36 PM »

My only real issue with the L-Pro's is how uneven the sound is and that huge midrange recess.  It's still a Stax Lambda but the SR-Lambda and Lambda Nova Signature are both more balanced.

i know what your talking about now. i got home to finally relax and listen to them and as always i compare things to my balance 240DF's since i use my df's as reference headphone and i noticed big difference between the 2 in the midrange and as always finding my DF's better in this catagory. i think the pro's are even brighter than my df's too in the top but both have good amount of air. but i still dig the sound of the pro's. they are nice to listen to.

« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 10:41:06 PM by RexAeterna »
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2012, 10:50:41 PM »

i decided to cut some mineral pads even as possible in the density and place it in the pro's since there was nothing there. it does help the midrange a bit and is nicer but the very wide openness seems to disappear a bit. they're still bright though. some tracks i'm like ''this sounds awesome!'' and others i'm like ''ouch! did someone just stab me in my ears?''. i don't mean to sound harsh because other then that i like their sound.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2012, 03:48:52 PM »

to add on from playing around more with the pros and curious, what was the density of the original mineral wool pads from stax? any idea? cause i have to say the midrange on these are pretty darn beautiful with the r-15 roxual stone wool pads i put in them i personally think. without the pads you can tell the midrange sucked out a lot. also i tried distancing the pads like the sr-202 and it even made the midrange suck-out worse. they sound lot better closer in to your ears to me. only problem i have with the pros here so far now is the brightness was not tamed which is big shocker cause i assume the stone wool would of not only help absorb some of the midrange but higher frequencies too. biggest difference was the midrange when i put in the stone wool pads i cut for them.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2012, 09:55:59 PM »

I just picked up my first Stax setup which is an original Lambda SB accompanied by the SRD-7 transformer box. Now I have a Pioneer and Kenwood amp to power these with. They both provide 100watts/channel.

Can anyone with any experience with the SRD series tell me if this is an appropriate amp? I'm wondering if the SRD-7 box can take this much power. I would prefer if my first impression of these is not a blown transformer box  :-0.

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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2012, 11:00:42 PM »

The power of the amp doesn't really matter - just exercise control with the volume.  You can easily blow the drivers with a transformer setup if you don't make sure the volume knob on the speaker amp is low enough.  Put the volume at 0 to start and then adjust from there just to be safe.
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