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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2012, 08:17:31 AM »

The issue with the SR-Omega is that Stax used the entire frame as the support for the drivers and it's not as solid as it looks.  Instead of the super strong frame in the SR-007 and SR-009 there is this brittle resin skeleton to which everything is attached and once it is damaged in any way, the drivers can't be aligned properly.  Stax clearly knew this back in 1998 which is why even the earliest 007 driver had extra holes just for mounting them in SR-Omega frames. 

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@spritzer: That makes shelling out an extra 1K for 009s more compelling.  Your first post was very helpful...thanks!!


Have heard about the channel imbalance possibilities, that was a concern.  Thanks @MuppetFace.


I can borrow 009/affordable amp so weight just tilted in that direction.  Less risk/outlay than my Omega Pepsi Challenge... ;)


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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2012, 03:19:06 PM »

I'm not the biggest fan of the SR-009 but my first impressions were indeed "wow, the SR-Omega done right" and they still hold true.  The build quality of the SR-009 is just ridicules so they should not suffer the same fate as the Omegas. 
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2012, 04:39:12 PM »

They suffer other fates, such as ants making their nests inside of them due to their excellent construction.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2012, 08:02:36 PM »

It's not the first Stax I've ever seen with a bit of life in them...  :)  What I did find funny were the not so subtle accusations that they shipped with the ants inside or that they had gotten there while being shipped.  Anybody who's opened a fresh 009 knows that there isn't a chance of either being true. 
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2012, 12:19:40 AM »

LOL, I'm sure the ants would be very dead the way the SR009 boxes are tripled wrapped and all.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2012, 09:42:00 AM »

using the pros right now for a bit and i have to say i really like them. you could laugh at me but i'm driving the pros straight from the little srm-212 amp directly into my echo audiofire 2 interface. the pros do have little brightness going on in the top but i wouldn't say it's exactly horrible. i think it's very nice and refined as long as you don't crank it high. they also have the right amount of airness to them as well. ken does exaggerate a lot and i find him amusing but the old pros do deserve some worthy recognition.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2012, 10:54:26 AM »

This may sound like a weird question, but if one were to quantify the riskiness of buying an SR-Omega at this point in time on a scale of 1 to 10, where would it fall?

1 being something akin to buying a new HD650 from an authorized seller.
10 being something akin to betting all one's money on Tom Cruise voluntarily committing himself.

For comparison's sake, I'd place buying an R10 at a 6 or so.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2012, 12:59:57 PM »

I'd place the R10 at 8-10 myself as they just scare me.  No spare parts and the internal bits are falling apart?  Wouldn't touch them with a 10' pole... 

Now the SR-Omega is a different matter as they can be fixed but it could cost a fortune to machine new parts and they will never be the same.  If the internal frame breaks then it could be fixed with some heavy duty epoxy and then drill/tap new holes but Stax would never do this for you.  They would just write it off or do some rudimentary fix to cram SR-007 drivers in the frame.

using the pros right now for a bit and i have to say i really like them. you could laugh at me but i'm driving the pros straight from the little srm-212 amp directly into my echo audiofire 2 interface. the pros do have little brightness going on in the top but i wouldn't say it's exactly horrible. i think it's very nice and refined as long as you don't crank it high. they also have the right amount of airness to them as well. ken does exaggerate a lot and i find him amusing but the old pros do deserve some worthy recognition.

My only real issue with the L-Pro's is how uneven the sound is and that huge midrange recess.  It's still a Stax Lambda but the SR-Lambda and Lambda Nova Signature are both more balanced. 
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2012, 01:13:44 PM »

i wouldn't say huge recess...well so far because i just did quick listen to make sure they worked. i can say only thing i notice right away is it's very wide openness in the imaging and the brightness on top. will listen to them later more to see. all i can say for now though is i actually dig the sound of them even though they have their flaws. these have no mineral wool in them either but i do have left over slabs of r-15 roxul at home from room treating i did so i will try to cut some pieces and see how they sound then.
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Re: Classic Stax really THAT good?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2012, 05:19:39 PM »

I'd place the R10 at 8-10 myself as they just scare me.  No spare parts and the internal bits are falling apart?  Wouldn't touch them with a 10' pole... 

Now the SR-Omega is a different matter as they can be fixed but it could cost a fortune to machine new parts and they will never be the same.  If the internal frame breaks then it could be fixed with some heavy duty epoxy and then drill/tap new holes but Stax would never do this for you.  They would just write it off or do some rudimentary fix to cram SR-007 drivers in the frame.

using the pros right now for a bit and i have to say i really like them. you could laugh at me but i'm driving the pros straight from the little srm-212 amp directly into my echo audiofire 2 interface. the pros do have little brightness going on in the top but i wouldn't say it's exactly horrible. i think it's very nice and refined as long as you don't crank it high. they also have the right amount of airness to them as well. ken does exaggerate a lot and i find him amusing but the old pros do deserve some worthy recognition.

My only real issue with the L-Pro's is how uneven the sound is and that huge midrange recess.  It's still a Stax Lambda but the SR-Lambda and Lambda Nova Signature are both more balanced.

What could cause the SR-Omega housing to fail short of like dropping them? I recall from our correspondence that keeping the outer screws secure would prevent any catastrophic failure. This is Deepak btw  :-*
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