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Author Topic: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?  (Read 9647 times)

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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #130 on: September 21, 2015, 04:37:22 AM »

LOL, you might want to see some of this guy's videos, I'm not sure you two are on the same wavelength here.

Sorry for the intrusion, please go back to jerking off over eye pattern graphs.

Actually a little presumptuous on your part sort of implying he's a kool-aid drinker. He was the first person to link one of the crocodile hunter objectivist videos on the forum asking for discussion. He replaced it with another because the guy comes off like a jack ass from an infomercial or petting zoo. I'm sure you're no stranger to certain people in audio espousing universal statements of fact from data of questionable value or correlation.
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #131 on: September 21, 2015, 04:48:03 AM »

Actually a little presumptuous on your part sort of implying he's a kool-aid drinker. He was the first person to link one of the crocodile hunter objectivist videos on the forum asking for discussion. He replaced it with another because the guy comes off like a jack ass from an infomercial or petting zoo. I'm sure you're no stranger to certain people in audio espousing universal statements of fact from data of questionable value or correlation.


Ah, I must have misunderstood.

That'll cost me a constructive comment: isn't there a trade-off between the rise time of a square(ish) wave and higher harmonics which then manifest as added noise? Furthermore, if the switching threshold is reached with the same periodicity, then what effect does it have on jitter?
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #132 on: September 21, 2015, 05:08:28 AM »

Ah, I must have misunderstood.

That'll cost me a constructive comment: isn't there a trade-off between the rise time of a square(ish) wave and higher harmonics which then manifest as added noise?

Ahh... but for this you have common mode filters like the jitterbug.
These limit the rise-/fall-times of the data signal again.
That's why you are not allowed to use more than 1 'in series' (but you can parallel them).

It seems you either need a LOT of different 'cleaners' (or use the newly released iFi which does it all ?) for optimal USB results.



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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #133 on: September 21, 2015, 05:16:48 AM »

It seems you either need a LOT of different 'cleaners' (or use the newly released iFi which does it all ?) for optimal USB results.

This is why I take the subjectivists' advice and don't worry about it 'cause I can't hear it ;)

As far as I'm concerned if I buy a high end digital audio product which turns out to be plagued by noise or connection issues, then I consider it defective and fit for a refund.
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #134 on: September 21, 2015, 05:42:25 AM »

Does Sansa have high-end offerings? I had no idea. :P
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #135 on: September 21, 2015, 08:14:37 AM »

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This is why I take the subjectivists' advice and don't worry about it 'cause I can't hear it ;)
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Actually, a lot of objectivists I know say stuff like, "fine, you've shown me numbers: now show me tht they translate into anything anyone can actually hear."

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As far as I'm concerned if I buy a high end digital audio product which turns out to be plagued by noise or connection issues, then I consider it defective and fit for a refund.

I don't care what it cost, if I hear noise from an audio component I throw it away. I do not have a high-end system: silence, played at full volume, gives me... silence.

(exception: turntables and vinyl)

(Oh, and my pre-amp, which is high-end but somewhat antique, has a sometimes noisy pot. Allowances have to be made for age. Even I crackle a bit.)
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #136 on: September 23, 2015, 04:58:39 AM »

Yet another (positive) review of the jitterbug and the regen.

http://www.audiostream.com/content/uptone-audio-usb-regen-and-audioquest-jitterbug
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #137 on: September 23, 2015, 05:10:11 AM »

Yet another (positive) review of the jitterbug and the regen.

http://www.audiostream.com/content/uptone-audio-usb-regen-and-audioquest-jitterbug

as soon as i saw synergistic research mentioned any and all credibility of these article was gone for me
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #138 on: September 23, 2015, 05:20:23 AM »

So umm...why isn't iFi using an actual Eye Diagram from a scope rather than an illustration for it's 'Rebalanced' approach with the 3.0?
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Re: USB cleaner, purifiers, decrapifiers?
« Reply #139 on: September 23, 2015, 05:50:52 AM »

anecdotal for now, friend plugged a jitterbug (also an effective small mouth bass lure) into an unused usb port on his mini , "it sounded horrible", he plugged it into a usb port > his power leg less usb cable> to dac and it sounded wonderful.  Tip to him, try it without the Jitterbug and then let me know.
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