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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #150 on: July 16, 2015, 12:06:30 AM »

This is too complicated. I'll just get Homedepot copper lamp cord and call it a day.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #151 on: July 16, 2015, 12:42:28 AM »

O2 amp is even better than Auralic Taurus MK2 interms of noise spectrum and crosstalk?!

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/big-sound-2015-getting-some-numbers#CQqUEt647hJmVYmM.97

Funny, we don't recommend either here. BW sounds better than both.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #152 on: July 16, 2015, 12:47:31 AM »

I can tell you some of the 'higher end' cables I've heard definitely try to provide a more laid back sound and warming things up. Whether alloy choice or adding caps and/or resistors and what not. I personally think it tends to kill the music but others seem to use it as a tone control to mitigate digititus upstream or in the transducer. None of that is measurable in FR wrt alloys btw. Same as why two flat measuring amps could sound bright and analytical or warm and relaxed. Look and measure elsewhere.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #153 on: July 16, 2015, 01:02:35 AM »

This is too complicated. I'll just get Homedepot copper lamp cord and call it a day.

You really should try something like Mogami 2921. It's really good stuff for "bulk" wire, FAR better than any zipcord for not much money. You can get it for something like $3 a foot. Here's a very simple guide on how to make professional looking speaker cable out of it.

http://www.takefiveaudio.com/mall/shopcontent.asp?type=Mogami_2921_biwire
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #154 on: July 16, 2015, 01:09:26 AM »

I can tell you some of the 'higher end' cables I've heard definitely try to provide a more laid back sound and warming things up. Whether alloy choice or adding caps and/or resistors and what not. I personally think it tends to kill the music but others seem to use it as a tone control to mitigate digititus upstream or in the transducer. None of that is measurable in FR wrt alloys btw. Same as why two flat measuring amps could sound bright and analytical or warm and relaxed. Look and measure elsewhere.

Some cables like Cardas Golden tend to have a very warm signature sound. Others like Nordost or XLO are the opposite, thin and somewhat clinical. I can't point to any measurements on why that would be so. You just have to try them and see.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #155 on: July 16, 2015, 05:05:11 AM »

And unless you have the ability to cold weld your connectors, you're going to be introducing other metals via solder, even with pure silver connectors, which are relatively rare.

I know Blue Jeans Cable has an ultrasonic welder... do any of the other "boutique" cable makers have similar capabilities?
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #156 on: July 16, 2015, 08:00:58 AM »

I know Blue Jeans Cable has an ultrasonic welder... do any of the other "boutique" cable makers have similar capabilities?

Audioquest uses pressure welds. I'm not sure who else does those sorts of terminations.

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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #157 on: July 16, 2015, 08:42:33 AM »

I like my cables to be flexible and for headphones, low in microphonics. Connectors must be abuse rated and precision cut so that I don't take the port with the cable when I attempt to disconnect it. If possible I do not want an elephant dong that is hard to manage. Also, I don't like the colors of the rainbow in my cable. The color should be black.

SQ wise, I want a wire with no gain.

If these requirements can be meet with a < $5 investment, life is good.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #158 on: July 16, 2015, 11:33:32 AM »

Having gained technical background and training i try to make better sense of the world but finding myself consistently failing in making sense of technical side of audio depths.
Some things make sense while others just don't, so far, for me.
The engineers who have cracked something great (guys at Schiit, EC etc) apparently have deeper knowledge in the field (not just book knowldege) or have been extremely lucky in trial and error.
  Some book worm objektivist/super atheist types have apparently hard time accepting things beyond common knowledge.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #159 on: July 16, 2015, 03:26:43 PM »

Audioquest uses pressure welds.

Isn't that called crimping?
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