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"Audiophoolery"?
« on: July 12, 2015, 05:54:37 AM »

Disclaimer: I don't necessary agree with his views but nonetheless, it's a topic worth discussing.

Do you agree or disagree with his views?




Edit, this is a far better video:

« Last Edit: July 12, 2015, 07:35:02 AM by madaboutaudio »
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2015, 06:19:48 AM »

I strongly agree with the first three minutes, but if I must be perfectly honest... His presentation and his voice are a little grating and I don't really want to watch the rest.

I believe that a "tl;dr" may be in order. And that's coming from someone who almost never wants a rough summary of the overall review.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2015, 06:41:25 AM »

He's kind of all over the map. Cables are an easy punching bag, and relatively easy to test - it's called a blind fold. If you can't hear any difference, don't buy any.

Who says optical sounds better than coax? Optical is garbage, it's the worst of the digital connection standards.

Uh, twisted pair is actually a thing dude. So is star-quad. There's real science there. Same with shielded power cords. If you don't think shielded cords do anything, you're a fucking idiot.

Yes, Monster is run by hyper litigious douchebags. So is Apple. So are a lot of companies. There are companies that don't even make products, and whose sole existence is founded on acquiring IP and then suing over it. What's your point?

I'm all for being skeptical, but the audiophool sword has two edges. The other side is the "AudioCritic" type, that believes that speakers or headphones, and those alone, are what make differences in sound. Amps, DACs, etc are all the same, and they either make noise or they don't. Therefore, the O2/ODAC are the best products ever made. Those folks are just as much phools as the people spending hundreds on cable elevators, and/or are deaf.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2015, 06:46:01 AM »

I could only watch the first two minutes and a half before acid reflux started to burn my esophagus.

I only agree that there are BS products that people are charging too much for to some easily parted from their wallets.

I disagree that skin effect and twisted pair are unscientific terms made up outside the realm of physics, or that openness, space, note weight/density are made up terms that don't apply to different gear signatures. Pretty much crystalizes the ignorant and arrogant attitude of the radicalized pseudo-objectivists that don't understand science or logic.

I think I found another one of his audio vids on youtube. check it out:



He needs to just stfu and use EQ on his monoprice rig before he gets killed by a stingray.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2015, 06:49:08 AM »

Or, there are people like me, who've personally heard differences between different amps and DACs, but who haven't sample enough cables to tell the difference, and who won't believe until they've heard something different.

That said, I'm open to different cables and different modes of transmission making a difference in sound quality. Just haven't heard it or been exposed to it, yet. Looking forward to learning more, though. Eventually. School isn't easy on the budget.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2015, 06:59:02 AM »

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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2015, 07:02:13 AM »

Btw, wtf is up with members of the English speaking world popping up in recent videos or TV sounding like I need to buy a Shamwow all the time? Can't they just talk like normal civilized human effin' beings??

Edit-Thune beat me to it.

Uptalking is one of the main reasons I don't usually date American chicks. Drives me friggin' nutz. Coupled with ummm...ummm...like, you know...for sure, like...kay? Then I gotta read this bubble hello kitty handwriting topped with circular dots over every 'i'.
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What was the question again?  :P
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2015, 07:32:09 AM »

Uptalking, in the way I have seen it used, can convey condescension and perhaps a sense of authority on a subject, when there is none.

I've seen it also used quite often by parents onto children as well. It is annoying.

BTW, I think David L. Jones in the OP's video has a lot of outrageously expensive tools (*use uptalking). However, I do agree with him that $5k cables are a bit expensive, that Monster cables SUCK! and that there are a lot of crazy claims around audio stuffs.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2015, 10:38:48 AM »

Dave Jones makes sense to me up until he begins to speak about capacitors.
He is imo not that dumb to seriously believe what he said about caps, like he is super passionate (Aussie way?) about stuff he likes he is the same about what he doesn't like. Went over the top quite a bit.
Another obvious is he hasn't got capable enough hearing, apparently. No faith in the field.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2015, 12:40:37 PM »


Edit, this is a far better video:



I didn't know that Lou Ferrigno was in the audio biz  :-Z
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