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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2013, 08:23:08 PM »
Quote from: shipsupt on May 23, 2013, 10:56:15 AM
Anyone want to make any recommendations on Windows 7 vs. 8 for the new machine?  I guess 8 will go "blue" soon?

I love Windows 8, including the new interface (Exact same OS and UI on my desktop, laptop, and tablet, including automatically synced settings? Yes please!). It has a bit of a learning curve, and Microsoft did a piss poor job including documentation and tutorials on how to use it, but it's just as easy and fast as W7 once you get the hang of it. Unless you're like most of the whiners out there. Then you'll hate it unconditionally. :P
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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2013, 10:32:53 PM »
I'm not a whiner. It's perfectly fine for touch control, I don't like the aesthetics of it at all but it's serviceable. With a mouse though it's a total disaster. There's a vast amount of wasted space, it's just a complete mess by all tenants of effective UI design.

Usually the excuse by W8 apologists is "ok, maybe it takes 5 clicks to do something that used to take 1 or 2, but you can always use keyboard shortcuts!" Because yes, that's a totally reasonable thing to ask of the average user. All you do is press Win+I, or Win+W, or Win+S, to do a function that has absolutely no relation to the letter W, or I, or S. Intuitive!

This is what W8 on the desktop should've looked like.


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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2013, 11:04:41 PM »
Did you read about the new 'Microsoft Mouse' made to make W8 more user friendly on ArsTechnica? I like Microsoft in general for its products but sometimes...
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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2013, 11:39:16 PM »
Quote from: DaveBSC on May 25, 2013, 10:32:53 PM
I'm not a whiner. It's perfectly fine for touch control, I don't like the aesthetics of it at all but it's serviceable. With a mouse though it's a total disaster. There's a vast amount of wasted space, it's just a complete mess by all tenants of effective UI design.

Usually the excuse by W8 apologists is "ok, maybe it takes 5 clicks to do something that used to take 1 or 2, but you can always use keyboard shortcuts!"

I use it primarily with a KB/M...works just fine! It also works well with a laptop touchpad if it supports the gestures. Once I was able to use it as a tablet OS, that actually made using the KB/M in W8 more intuitive than before. Having a Surface for a while really helped me understand how W8 works overall on multiple machines with different input types. Some things take 1 extra click, some take 1 less. For the most part, everything is just as fast to get through as W7, and I don't really use keyboard shortcuts. Quite easy and intuitive to use once you get the hang of it, but people don't give it a good enough chance. :)

Now, as for aesthetics, I can't argue against personal opinion there. I like the looks but can understand if others don't.
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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2013, 11:29:32 PM »
i read somewhere about a few weeks ago that windows 8.1 (windows blue?) is going to have a free upgrade for those current windows 8 users. didnt tried searching what would be the "improvements" though.
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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2013, 02:11:20 AM »
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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2013, 06:04:41 AM »
Yep. Can't take away my start button.

http://startisback.com/

I'm using the same software mod with W8, Dave. It's very well integrated into the OS compared to the other two free ones I tried. Haven't seen Metro in months.
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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2013, 08:13:06 AM »
Quote from: OJneg on May 27, 2013, 06:04:41 AM
Yep. Can't take away my start button.

http://startisback.com/

I'm using the same software mod with W8, Dave. It's very well integrated into the OS compared to the other two free ones I tried. Haven't seen Metro in months.

I haven't seen that one, but Stardock's Start8 is very well executed. It's so well done in fact that some OEMs are actually including it with their new machines. Most of them aren't happy with W8, and man do they hate WinRT.
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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2013, 08:19:51 AM »
RT is a disaster.  I have a friend works at Redmond and let's just say I'm not as optimistic about the overall platform direction as I was after having a chat. 
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Re: Help a pirate out!! Gaming PC advice needed.
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2013, 02:38:52 AM »
Very helpful video comparing Start8 and Start is back. Apparently there are at least half a dozen start button replacement apps now.

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