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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #240 on: July 08, 2015, 03:57:38 AM »

This has never happened before, but I finally found a turntable I've been looking for, for the past 7 years!  I am horrendously excited about it and just had to bump this thread!  The wife sees me excited but I am not telling her why this time....for fear of getting my ass kicked for making two turntable purchases (this and the Townshend Rock 7 above) in such a short period of time!

I can share it my ma Changstar peeps :)  It is a Micro Seiki BL-91L with a SME 3012 Series II Tonearm:

 :)p1 :)p1 :)p1 :)p1


congrats man!!

good to hear you reach the top of your audio mountain.  I admit having listen to your other tables I am curious what your audio nirvana sounds like....

and whether it smells like teen spirit. 


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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #241 on: July 08, 2015, 05:44:00 AM »


congrats man!!

good to hear you reach the top of your audio mountain.  I admit having listen to your other tables I am curious what your audio nirvana sounds like....

and whether it smells like teen spirit. 


couldn't resit a bad joke.

Hey bud!  Not the top of the audio mountain, but definitely its a big deal for me.  I've been trying to get this turntable for far too many years....it's that elusive white elephant :)

Frankly, I will probably end up with Kuzma Stabi XL4 (or with the new DC motor) as a final hurrah / destination table.  There is one on the way that I bought on behalf of my buddy.  I will listen to it and decide if I want one for myself as well at some point.  THAT would be the top of my analog audio mountain.

About the two files posted. DEFINITELY File B for me...File A starts getting fatiguing really quick!
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #242 on: July 09, 2015, 03:16:01 AM »

Hey bud!  Not the top of the audio mountain, but definitely its a big deal for me.  I've been trying to get this turntable for far too many years....it's that elusive white elephant :)

Frankly, I will probably end up with Kuzma Stabi XL4 (or with the new DC motor) as a final hurrah / destination table.  There is one on the way that I bought on behalf of my buddy.  I will listen to it and decide if I want one for myself as well at some point.  THAT would be the top of my analog audio mountain.

About the two files posted. DEFINITELY File B for me...File A starts getting fatiguing really quick!


oh no



it seems your still falling down the rabbit hole.  :)p13

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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #243 on: July 09, 2015, 03:18:21 AM »



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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #244 on: July 09, 2015, 04:37:11 AM »

Feels more like  :shark:

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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #245 on: July 11, 2015, 06:58:08 PM »

So for fun and education (I'm slowly teaching myself how to (re)master old music) I pulled those phono amp samples into iZotope RX and started playing around.

First thing is that they aren't even close to level matched.  B was about 2LUFS louder using the ITU BS.1770 standard which in this case is equal to about 2dB RMS.  I think Fremer went back and mostly fixed this.  I haven't looked at the new samples he uploaded but for sure he stopped using peak normalization and used something RMS based.

Second thing is that one of the samples has a major (1.5dB) channel imbalance which is pulling the image out.  Pretty sure it's A since I doubt a modern recording like this would have the singers not in the middle of the image.

Anyhow, once you fix these two problems they become a LOT closer.  I don't have a reference for this recording but A has quite a lot more low end punch and a bit of sizzle in the treble.  B is more even handed.  The Shure cart is certainly having an effect too; lots of variables!

I'm still going with B since I'm pretty confident A is the one with technical issues.  Hopefully Fremer will toss up a reference version using his own equipment to show "how it could be".
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #246 on: July 13, 2015, 06:13:42 AM »

It has landed!  I finally setup the Micro Seiki BL-91L that I got over the weekend in San Diego

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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #247 on: July 13, 2015, 01:56:36 PM »

Very nice :)

What kind of maple block is that below the table?  Been meaning to pick one up for myself for a while now.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #248 on: July 13, 2015, 04:17:05 PM »

Thanks!  That is a Mapleshade block.
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Re: The Turntable Thread
« Reply #249 on: July 17, 2015, 06:47:44 PM »

For those curious what a 6 figure analog front end sounds like Fremer put up 24/96 needledrops of two full tracks from original "RL" pressings of Zeppelin and The Band.  Will only be there for the weekend; I assume he doesn't want to incur the wrath of the copyright police.

http://www.analogplanet.com/content/you-asked-it-weekend-only

Go grab them and add em to your "gear evaluation" folder :)

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