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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2015, 08:14:08 PM »
CDPs have a simpler UI with physical buttons.


power on (a few seconds)
eject
play
forward
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I'm sure Porsche will implement a touch-screen parking brake by 2018. by 2025, the Porsche will drive itself.
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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2015, 08:16:15 PM »
Quote from: OJneg on August 14, 2015, 07:59:30 PM
I like CD

You know what I mean, more of a hassle than digital

Edit: not "hirez",scratch, brake, take up space

That said I bought 3 CDs this last week
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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2015, 08:20:11 PM »
Quote from: DaveBSC on August 14, 2015, 06:45:57 PM
It's really not hard to make one yourself, like at all. The new Celeron N is a great platform, much faster than the old Atoms while still using a tiny amount of power, making DC input jacks and passive heatsinks possible. Get some laptop memory and an SSD or M.2 drive, install VortexBox or Daphile, and you're good to go.



I know, I know. I built my own desktop and have looked at Intel NUC with fanless case as well as the DIY route with Celerons and everything. I already use DLNA. I was half-joking.

The bit about a high-end phono pre makes me feel funny in my pants.
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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2015, 08:35:10 PM »
Quote from: audiofrk on August 14, 2015, 07:57:36 PM

Fuck that, the only keeping company's from selling uprez mp3 masters is them selling uprez CD masters.  CDs suck but they're the lowest common denominator for good audio

Nothing is stopping anyone from selling uprez MP3 masters as CD releases. Beck's Morning Phase is EXACTLY that on CD, an uprez MP3 master. Hard brickwall filter at 16kHz. Nothing stopped anybody from selling uprez CD masters as "DSD" on many SACD releases. Nothing stops anyone from selling 16/44 cut to vinyl, or for that matter, MP3 cut to vinyl. Guess where the Morning Phase vinyl came from.

Your argument makes no sense.
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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #64 on: August 14, 2015, 08:41:03 PM »
Quote from: DaveBSC on August 14, 2015, 08:35:10 PM
Nothing is stopping anyone from selling uprez MP3 masters as CD releases. Beck's Morning Phase is EXACTLY that on CD, an uprez MP3 master. Hard brickwall filter at 16kHz. Nothing stopped anybody from selling uprez CD masters as "DSD" on many SACD releases. Nothing stops anyone from selling 16/44 cut to vinyl, or for that matter, MP3 cut to vinyl. Guess where the Morning Phase vinyl came from.

Your argument makes no sense.


Same for the hdtracks mastering, your point

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Hmmmm for some reason I only saw part of your response.

Yes they do sell a lot of upsamples as "hirez" but it is still not all of them, everytime the industry changes for convenience the quality suffers.   As it is things are already bad but getting rid of an option won't make things better. While I'd love to just buy good digital masters (even at the $10 premium they are asking for now) there is no guarantee that removing CDs  will make things better
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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2015, 08:44:25 PM »
Quote from: audiofrk on August 14, 2015, 08:16:15 PM
You know what I mean, more of a hassle than digital
Same with me. I'm just looking at the rows and rows of CDs I have. Thinking how heavy they were to move and how much physical space they take up. Then, I look at an SSD that can hold my entire collection in FLAC with room to spare. That's the primary reason why I would like digital distribution.

For long-term storage, probably a pressed CD is better, but I have run into laser rot. It's rare for a pressed CD (probably even rarer for the modern CD), but it has happened to me. SSD's can also have bit rot if not plugged in every so often (probably rarer with the new style memory architectures).
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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2015, 08:47:49 PM »
Quote from: Azteca X on August 14, 2015, 08:20:11 PM
The bit about a high-end phono pre makes me feel funny in my pants.

I actually think a prime target for Schiit is the $400-500 range. A Yggy priced pre would be cool, but there are already superb Phono stages in that price bracket, like the Sutherland 20/20.

At $400-500 you've got Graham Slee, iFi, Lehmann, and Pro-Ject. Those guys are beatable. Hint hint.
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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2015, 08:57:19 PM »
Quote from: audiofrk on August 14, 2015, 08:41:03 PM

Same for the hdtracks mastering, your point

The point is that a laser cut piece of tinfoil has absolutely nothing to do with the provenance of a recording. CDs are old and stupid, and within a few years there will be no more places left to even play them. I only have one computer left with an optical drive, and its there only because my girlfriend occasionally uses it for borrowed movies, otherwise there'd be no need for it at all.

CD players in cars are going away. Some bands have already stopped releasing their music on CD, and are now selling just Bandcamp downloads and vinyl.

Ultimately there's not that much difference between this and a CD player. It's time to move on.



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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #68 on: August 14, 2015, 10:39:18 PM »
Quote from: Xen on August 14, 2015, 08:44:25 PM
For long-term storage, probably a pressed CD is better ...

It might only be a small proportion, but I have too many CDs that are unplayable and unreadable by a PC.  Also, they might survive a flood, but not a fire. Multiple copies on hard disks, with at least one back up always kept in a different location, is my recipe for long-term storage. For long-term survival, even.

I have a hunch that many people, possibly even the majority, who adopt PC-based audio storage and play, never think about backups. And no, RAID is not a backup.
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Re: Alternative transports to USB/PC or 'Spinning a disc'?
« Reply #69 on: August 15, 2015, 12:31:12 AM »
Quote from: Thad E Ginathom on August 14, 2015, 10:39:18 PM
I have a hunch that many people, possibly even the majority, who adopt PC-based audio storage and play, never think about backups. And no, RAID is not a backup.

Very true, even though I'm running RAID10.  :P
I like this SSD revolution we are having the computer storage. HDD are big and heavy to withstand the RPMs but their weak links are those tiny and fragile magnetic heads and stepper motor. So easy to break. I'm going to switching over to multiple SSD backups instead.
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