LOL, you have to understand that people who buy cars like that are like my parents. You don't want to freak them out.

Yeah the the 2015 GX isn't that different from the 2003, other than the Cylon face, anyway. Don't they know that robots eat old people's medicine?




http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81303587/

The top level audio systems in all of the EU luxury trucks are very good. I would strongly advise against buying either the XC90 or the new Q7 though. These are both brand new models. The XC90 in particular is a clean sheet redesign, with all new electronics. That means lease. Especially for business use, there are all kinds of incentives to lease vs. buy. You don't want to pay to be a beta tester.

Its 2015 now, not 2005. Sure, it can be problems, but if it is, they are usually repaired very quickly.
People shouldent be scared to buy new cars anymore, not even if its a brand new design with new technology etc.

Its 2015 now, not 2005. Sure, it can be problems, but if it is, they are usually repaired very quickly.
People shouldent be scared to buy new cars anymore, not even if its a brand new design with new technology etc.

The Germans do seem to be doing better now than they were in 2005, but we won't know how these models will be doing when they are 10 years old obviously until 2025. Historically at least, German luxury cars do not age gracefully, and the bigger they are (A8, 7 series, S-class) the harder they fall. These cars are designed to lease, and will generally hold up just well enough so that CPO warranty claims don't eat too much into profitability. It's the third owner who comes in at year 7 looking for a cheap luxury ride that gets fleeced.

In general, just about everybody fucks up in their first model year introductions, right up to today. Even brands that you would expect to be reliable. The 2003 Honda Accord for example was a HUGE fuck up. Well you might say, that was 2003. Ancient history. Honda managed pretty well with the 2008 redesign in its first year, but the 2013 redesign, ru-roh, lots of problems with the V6. And that's Honda, one of the most reliable brands out there, except for that new 8-speed DCT being used in some new Honda and Acura products, that's currently involved in a class action lawsuit over the fact that it's a piece of crap.

First year Acura TLX buyers signed up to be beta testers for a brand new Honda transmission, and that's what they get. Multiple software revisions later, Honda's still working on it. If you know Honda well, you know that their track record with brand new transmission designs is shall we say not the greatest, and it might be wise to avoid the first model year.

Now take a company like Volvo, that is tiny in comparison to Honda, and that has 20+ year record of generally mediocre to lousy reliability, and give them a new from the ground up design, with all new electronics. You wanna buy that first year car? Really?

Yeah I dont see the problem. Atleast from a personal experience. I guess im just not as reasonable as you guys . Who keeps their car for more then 5 years anyway?

The average age of cars on US roads is currently something like 11 years, so yeah, a lot of people do. And it's not just about keeping your car longer than 5 years. When you buy a very high-tech, very complicated car in the first year, you're rolling some pretty big dice immediately. The warranty will cover you for as long as it lasts, but just having a warranty doesn't mean that the dealer will just give you another car exactly like the one you bought while your car sits in the shop for days, weeks, or months. How good would you feel after buying a $60K Volvo to be driving around in the dealer's Ford Focus service loaner?