Topic: Headphone Flowcharts and Cultural Studies of Different Colored People (Read 12645 times)

gixxerwimp · « **Reply #90 on:** August 05, 2015, 07:53:52 AM »

Quote from: imac2much on July 28, 2015, 12:12:09 AM

On the other hand, while Chinese people still routinely bully and despise Japanese individuals, foreigners, and government, they have no qualms now purchasing Japanese cars and products. Many of my students tell me they hate Japan yet they watch One Piece and other anime shows daily. It's very interesting.

I was born in Taiwan, grew up in Canada, and have been back Taiwan for the past 10-15 yrs. Taiwanese dislike Koreans and Mainland Chinese in general, but they lap up K-Pop, K-Drama and a lot of PRC content as well. The Japanese were relatively benevolent during their occupation pre-WW2, so they're quite well looked upon and influence much of the local culture.

Taiwanese have a way of separating everything into "domestic" and "foreign" (guo-nei, guo-wai). All of the west is considered homogenous under the "foreign" category, and their impressions of what this homogeneity consists of is heavily influenced by Hollywood. Several times a week I have to explain to a colleague that things are different in N. America vs. Europe, and even between northern and southern Europe (let alone the differences between countries and regions within countries). There's reverse racism here in that things western are often thought of as better just for being western. And any Chinese who've emigrated and returned from overseas are treated better and thought of more highly than those who haven't had the opportunity to go abroad. "Blacks" are generally feared.

Deep Funk · « **Reply #91 on:** August 05, 2015, 11:11:52 AM »

The obsession with status and wealth is sometimes very concerning.

The obsession with whiteness to the extent of paling yourself with potentially toxic make-up is even worse.

For some reason this obsession with pureness of blood (heritage) and skin is something of all ages and cultures. I do not understand it.

playboiiz · « **Reply #92 on:** August 05, 2015, 02:43:07 PM »

I'm surprise to see stax lambda and koss esp950 rank higher than hd650/600 since from the thread here many people say otherwise.

Also curious as to at what price that speaker will be better than the stax009 and hd800, just want to know which better bang for bucks.

Marvey · « **Reply #93 on:** August 05, 2015, 05:15:10 PM »

Quote from: gixxerwimp on August 05, 2015, 07:53:52 AM

I was born in Taiwan, grew up in Canada, and have been back Taiwan for the past 10-15 yrs.

Wow, that would be really weird if it turned out that you were one of my cousins.

Anaxilus · « **Reply #94 on:** August 05, 2015, 05:15:26 PM »

Quote from: playboiiz on August 05, 2015, 02:43:07 PM

Also curious as to at what price that speaker will be better than the stax009 and hd800, just want to know which better bang for bucks.

Can't speak for other people, but as my tastes go the only speakers that interest me and begin to be competitive with those two start at around $1,500 to $6,000. So I don't really see speakers being that much of a bargain proposition unless maybe your reference sound is some soft and warm sound which you can get for a couple hundred bucks. DIY speakers are cheaper but will not be cheap, and you factor time and labor. There's the used and vintage market but that's not really a fair or easy comparison. Even then, at their best speakers and headphones still bring different potential strengths to the table in the end IMO.

ultrabike · « **Reply #95 on:** August 05, 2015, 05:28:06 PM »

Quote from: playboiiz on August 05, 2015, 02:43:07 PM

I'm surprise to see stax lambda and koss esp950 rank higher than hd650/600 since from the thread here many people say otherwise.

Also curious as to at what price that speaker will be better than the stax009 and hd800, just want to know which better bang for bucks.

I'm one of those who likes the HD6x0 overall better than the stax lambda and koss esp950. Of the lambda and the esp950, I would pick the lambda. I would consider the lambda (entry level) as side grade to the HD6x0.

Regarding speakers. I very personally prefer a few hundred buck speakers to either a stax 009 or HD800 or HD600 or whatever. Not because it would sound better across the board (for that one may need to spend ~$1000 or more depending on priorities), but because a set of reasonable entry level speakers give me better soundstage. However, a set of speakers may not always be practical in some situations.

Still, preferences aside, I agree with Anax that speakers and headphones each offer different strenghts so not really mutually exclusive.

Anaxilus · « **Reply #96 on:** August 05, 2015, 05:30:10 PM »

Quote from: Deep Funk on August 05, 2015, 11:11:52 AM

The obsession with status and wealth is sometimes very concerning.

The obsession with whiteness to the extent of paling yourself with potentially toxic make-up is even worse.

For some reason this obsession with pureness of blood (heritage) and skin is something of all ages and cultures. I do not understand it.

In parts of Asia like China and Vietnam, the second is connected to the first. Pale white skin is associated with coming from a well-off white collar family and being successful. If you have a tan it is presumed you are a physical laborer. So girls ride around covered up like mummies to increase their prospects of marriage.

Being a hybrid myself, I see racism from all sides including those trying to 'help'. The purity thing merely represents a psychological fear and insecurity of the unknown. People ultimately perceive mixing blood as an attack on themselves if they come from a more homogenous background or culture. More educated and critical thinking beings are less prone to this sort of belief set. Most of the world still lives in the Dark Ages (demons, voodoo, ground up animal parts, martyrdom,etc.).

OJneg · « **Reply #97 on:** August 05, 2015, 06:32:30 PM »

Quote from: playboiiz on August 05, 2015, 02:43:07 PM

I'm surprise to see stax lambda and koss esp950 rank higher than hd650/600 since from the thread here many people say otherwise.

Yeah, this chart is influenced by price to a certain degree. HD6xx is cheaper than any good stat system so is a more logical stepping stone from Mid-fi, hence the placement you see. HD6xx won't give you the ethereal and effortless estat sound that many audiophiles seem to enjoy. So I figure once someone decides to move on from the HD6xx and adopts The Way of the Stat, then either of those two choices would be apt before moving on to the more premium estats.

This flowchart is not a "resolution" chart or any other sort of pure performance ranking. Otherwise things would look a lot different. Some pirates find the HD6xx with the right system to be even more resolving than the SR009 (which I may or may not agree with). FWIW I easily prefer my HD600 over both the ESP950/E90 and SR307/323 although it would be nice to decouple each of those headphones from their drivers in order to evaluate more accurately.

Quote from: playboiiz on August 05, 2015, 02:43:07 PM

Also curious as to at what price that speaker will be better than the stax009 and hd800, just want to know which better bang for bucks.

Bang-for-buck is DIY and always will be, so take that comment as you would from a DIYer. You can build relatively cheap speakers that will give you a lot of the good qualities that any headphone won't. Realistic staging, palpable bass, a generally sense of ease and the whole disappearing act. But I still haven't heard a loudspeaker that picks up as much musical information as a HD800 in its natural habitat, so take that into consideration. In terms of buying something retail, you gotta figure that out for yourself. Loudspeakers are application-specific which is why I prefer to build things precisely to their usage scenario.

Deep Funk · « **Reply #98 on:** August 05, 2015, 09:29:14 PM »

Quote from: Anaxilus on August 05, 2015, 05:30:10 PM

In parts of Asia like China and Vietnam, the second is connected to the first. Pale white skin is associated with coming from a well-off white collar family and being successful. If you have a tan it is presumed you are a physical laborer. So girls ride around covered up like mummies to increase their prospects of marriage.

Being a hybrid myself, I see racism from all sides including those trying to 'help'. The purity thing merely represents a psychological fear and insecurity of the unknown. People ultimately perceive mixing blood as an attack on themselves if they come from a more homogenous background or culture. More educated and critical thinking beings are less prone to this sort of belief set. Most of the world still lives in the Dark Ages (demons, voodoo, ground up animal parts, martyrdom,etc.).

Thanks. I find it beyond silly. I value behaviour and merits more than anything.

Coming from a mixed family some opinions about origins and standing are simply fucked up. I distanced myself from them.

ultrabike · « **Reply #99 on:** August 05, 2015, 09:48:02 PM »

Quote from: Anaxilus on August 05, 2015, 05:30:10 PM

In parts of Asia like China and Vietnam, the second is connected to the first. Pale white skin is associated with coming from a well-off white collar family and being successful. If you have a tan it is presumed you are a physical laborer. So girls ride around covered up like mummies to increase their prospects of marriage.

Being a hybrid myself, I see racism from all sides including those trying to 'help'. The purity thing merely represents a psychological fear and insecurity of the unknown. People ultimately perceive mixing blood as an attack on themselves if they come from a more homogenous background or culture. More educated and critical thinking beings are less prone to this sort of belief set. Most of the world still lives in the Dark Ages (demons, voodoo, ground up animal parts, martyrdom,etc.).

This is unfortunately very true in Mexico as well IMO.

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