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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #160 on: July 16, 2015, 03:35:21 PM »

LOL! when I replaced the power supply of my ReadyNAS Pro I crimped the power supply cables. Much easier and cleaner than soldering the joints.

Did it improve the quality of the joint and make the power cleaner? Who cares, I just needed a practical solution, I had to crimp ~24 to 24 freeking cables pronto.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #161 on: July 16, 2015, 03:38:04 PM »

The wires on the switches and outlets of your house are also pressured welded.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #162 on: July 16, 2015, 05:11:41 PM »

Isn't that called crimping?

Same basic concept, different level of force. The press applies something like 2 tons of pressure, a bit more than you're going to get from your average hand crimper. Their speaker cables on the other hand just use typical set screws, which anyone can do at home.

Not an AQ fan btw. I started out with them after moving on from zipcord, and I couldn't beat their cables with any of the DIY stuff I tried by twisting together hookup wire. So they are better than Monoprice, but the battery as far as I can tell is silly nonsense. I couldn't hear any difference at all with or without. A multitude of other companies also provide better performance and/or much better value.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #163 on: July 16, 2015, 05:34:14 PM »

Same basic concept, different level of force. The press applies something like 2 tons of pressure, a bit more than you're going to get from your average hand crimper.

Why do they look like they are using a fancy crimp press? Also doesn't cold welding require both materials to be the same and completely clean free of oxidation, coatings, gunk, crap, silver linings, sweat from mexican workers, etc.?
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #164 on: July 16, 2015, 06:05:12 PM »

Why do they look like they are using a fancy crimp press? Also doesn't cold welding require both materials to be the same and completely clean free of oxidation, coatings, gunk, crap, silver linings, sweat from mexican workers, etc.?

No idea. I don't think anybody is making cables in a cleanroom. It is common however to use some type of coating or fluid at the termination point to reduce possible corrosion from joining two different metals with different voltage potentials.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #165 on: July 16, 2015, 06:54:01 PM »

Cold welding needs a lot of pressure... not sure if that little hand press will actually do it. It's a small enough area, but I have doubts. Other factors that raise a flag: you want clean, flat & parallel, non-oxidized surfaces. I don't see any of that here.

A use of fluid/flux/unicorn tears might remove some oxidation or corrosion, but you still have to remove that gunk prior to welding.

Now a specially chosen filler material that lowers the melting point of the two contacting metals, that could potentially reduce the amount of pressure needed to bond the surfaces... but that's kinda like brazing. Usually this process also requires some heat to achieve diffusion bonding. A paste flux still has all the non-metal gunk in it which would interfere. A carefully controlled multistep pressure application that starts from the centre and expands outwards to push out the flux is a maybe, but again I don't see that happening with the one-step hand press.

If the metals being joined have a large difference in galvanic potential, magical fluid won't do much. Just about anything aluminum will ruin your day.
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Not sure if I like stuffing one hole or both holes. Tending toward one hole since both holes seems kinda ghey ~Purrin

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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #166 on: July 16, 2015, 07:33:43 PM »

Carbon-to-Diamond-like preasures, vaccum clean room, unicorn tears, magic flux, and so forth, all for dramatic improvements in cable transansparency, at the connector. Awesome.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #167 on: July 16, 2015, 08:43:30 PM »

And technically you'd be better off with bare wire into the speaker terminal anyways, since any connector at minimum adds two interfaces  :-\
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Do you think there may be an acoustic leak from the jack hole? ~Tyll Hertsens

Not sure if I like stuffing one hole or both holes. Tending toward one hole since both holes seems kinda ghey ~Purrin

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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #168 on: July 16, 2015, 08:47:11 PM »

Carbon-to-Diamond-like preasures

I weld all my cables with enough pressure to cause neutron degeneracy.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #169 on: July 16, 2015, 09:41:42 PM »

I weld all my cables with enough pressure to cause neutron degeneracy.

fucking degenerates, they will tell you anything to sell cables...
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