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Author Topic: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.  (Read 51298 times)

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Here's how it measures on our rig.



If you change the scales, zoom the plot, go down to 10 Hz, and add an 009 as reference:



The < 20 Hz response may be pessimistic in my rig (and considering 6x0/580x where leaky measurements vs 009 sealed measurements). I usually limit my measurements to 20 Hz to 20 kHz.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2015, 08:08:01 PM by ultrabike »
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Oh, I just used regular scissors and took my time cutting. It's nice that you can just pry the ear pads off without much worry. I use a spoon to pop the grill off. There's a little, uh, dip or recessed spot around the side of the cups in the back where you can pry the grill off. Grill does have a plastic lip around it, btw.

I used tweezers to get the back foam out. Carefully push it in from the sides first. Some spots are glued on, so lightly push over those spots until the foam comes loose. Be gentle so you don't get foam inside the driver area. Once all the edge spots are free and pushed in toward the center, you can pull it out gently from the top opening.
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Thanks to all of the great posts and guidance here in this thread I was able to successfully do my first headphone mod ever! I was a little nervous since the HD650's are the best cans I personally own, but with the detailed instructions in this thread I was able to do it - and boy they sound great! I agree with purr1n,  with the mod they sound crisper, more lively, less over damped. And maybe it is my imagination, but it seems the sound stage is a bit better as well.

I want to thank purr1n, hans, ultrabike (great video), and JoelT for all of your help!

Below are some pics of my HD650's modded going by this thread's instructions - Please note the first 2 pics are not mine, I found them online to help others who want to mod their HD650's on how to use the tweezers method to remove the foam from the back of the driver behind the grills - the rest of the pics are mine (sorry my camera sucks)

How to remove the foam from the back of the driver with the tweezers method (not my pics, for illustration only)





OK these are my modded pics of the HD650 (again sorry about poor picture quality:

Behind grill and drivers with foam removed:




Using the "Quarter Method to cut out the foam exposing the driver (I didn't do so well, but they still sound good! ANd replacement foam driver covers on eBay are only about $2.50 a pair if I need new ones:



And what they look like assembled from inside the ear-cup:




Thank you again to all who provided extremely useful information and tips to mod the HD650, I love the way these sound even more now, and purr1n was right on with his impressions!

Let me know what you guys think, I know that the holes I cut over the drivers inside the ear-cup are not perfect, but this is my very first time disassembling any headphone or modding any headphone and I was really nervous as these are the best headphones I currently own. Does everything look ok to you guys? I know the holes over the drivers aren't perfect, but did I do it right?

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The HD650's were one of the first headphones I ever owned.  I spent some time trying to "upgrade" them and find something I liked better.  I went through the Q701, HE-500, T1, HD800.  Eventually I gave up, and just decided to buy an "end game" amp for them which was the Zana Deux SE.  I couldn't be happier.  While I still maintain the HD800's and enjoy them, if I had to chose between the HD650 and HD800 the HD800 would lose out.  I'd image that most people don't pair a $2000 amp with a $300 headphone.  It's really something special though.
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Looks fine to me. If they sound good, that's what matters. Plus replacement foam is cheap as you said.
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If it's any consolation, I completely fucked up one of the foam cushion thingies when I tried to do that mod. So right now I'm riding foamless. Luckily, I've an extra set of pads inbound anyway. And I ordered two replacement pairs of the foam cushion thingies off of eBay.

Managed to get the foam off the back of the driver, however. Don't think that mod is reversible in my case: The foam was really glued on/stuck at certain points and thus was damaged in the removal.
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The HD650's were one of the first headphones I ever owned.  I spent some time trying to "upgrade" them and find something I liked better.  I went through the Q701, HE-500, T1, HD800.  Eventually I gave up, and just decided to buy an "end game" amp for them which was the Zana Deux SE.  I couldn't be happier.  While I still maintain the HD800's and enjoy them, if I had to chose between the HD650 and HD800 the HD800 would lose out.  I'd image that most people don't pair a $2000 amp with a $300 headphone.  It's really something special though.

Wouldn't surprise me. HD800 doesn't scale much if any on the ZDSE. You should get a ZD Super sometime or have it upgraded to a Super. I hated the ZDSE and made sure to tell Craig every chance I got. Unfortunately, I can't do that anymore.  :'(
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I hate this thread. Makes me want to justify owning both an HD650 and HD600.

Buy an HD600 and order HD650 drivers, or vice versa. (The HD600 is cheaper and the HD650 drivers were actually cheaper than HD600, last time I checked.) You can easily switch them in a few minutes. I put 650 drivers & grilles in my 580.

Or just buy the 650, leave all audio forums and don't worry about it ever again.
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The HD650's were one of the first headphones I ever owned.  I spent some time trying to "upgrade" them and find something I liked better.  I went through the Q701, HE-500, T1, HD800.  Eventually I gave up, and just decided to buy an "end game" amp for them which was the Zana Deux SE.  I couldn't be happier.  While I still maintain the HD800's and enjoy them, if I had to chose between the HD650 and HD800 the HD800 would lose out.  I'd image that most people don't pair a $2000 amp with a $300 headphone.  It's really something special though.

Not sure where the Ragnarok fits in the scheme of things as hype seems to have died down, but both the HD650 and HD800 sounds magnificent through it. I love the HD650, but it's no contest through my system. The clarity and precision imaging of the HD800 is in another league and I'd be loathe to part with it to only slum it with the HD650.
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is the two pin design of the cable balanced or no?
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