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Author Topic: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.  (Read 51290 times)

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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2015, 01:45:06 PM »
I don't have the experience or the ears that people have up here, as I am only audiophile level 2. I came to Changstar after being a bit frustrated with trying to find a headphone I could love. My HP journey started a few years ago when I purchased the vModa m-100. For a brief time I enjoyed them, but quickly got turned off by the big bass. Then I tried a few more cans, like Senn Momentums, PSB M4u 1, etc. Finally settled on the he-400s. I liked these for awhile, but soon the recessed upper mids and distortion in the mids started to really bother me. I gave them to my father, who only listens to classical, and they do alright for that.

When I came here and asked for advice, people recommended the hd600/650 with a tube. And purrin had a rig recommendation for these with the modi and vali. I was skeptical, like I had this idea that these were old school. But I picked up the hd650s about 6 months ago, and soon after the wyrd, modi 2, and vali. And omfg, this has been a life changing sound. These are really easy to enjoy. The tonal balance just drips with joy.

I am indebted to the people here who got me going with the hd650s.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2015, 02:26:53 PM »
Not trying to defend HF, but the HD650 is the highest rated headphone on there.

Love my HD650 too, but has Sennheiser continuously been updating it?  I've heard one revision when they change the foam from black to silver.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2015, 03:02:00 PM »
Quote from: Za Warudo on May 15, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
Not trying to defend HF, but the HD650 is the highest rated headphone on there.


HF is so F(lavour) O(f) T(he) M(onth) oriented that sometimes it reminds people of a Starbucks where through the favours it is difficult to distinguish the coffee. At Starbucks  I only go for the flat white or filter brew.

HF became so annoying at one point that it reminded me of MSN without AdBlock. No more... 
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2015, 03:26:44 PM »
When I had them for a week, they lacked the kind of bass extension I was looking for, which was their achilles heel for me.  Seems like I can't be bothered with anything less than planar or hd800 levels of extension from an open headphone.

However, I did think they were amongst some of the smoothest and most neutral frequency response from midrange to treble, while only lacking some energy above 10-12khz.  I think the HD600 is a little less neutral throughout the midrange, unless it's on a warmish tube amp.  I did not find a veil on the HD650 (silver damping.)

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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2015, 03:39:07 PM »
I had one and got rid of it because I have a relatively bigger sized head - I could not get over the squeeze. I think I would want to buy one back at $299.

Messiahs how do you make the headphone less "clamp"? Extend the headphone to max size & hold the exposed metal plate and bend it?
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2015, 04:30:38 PM »
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2015, 04:36:08 PM »
Less clamp comes from more wearing time  :P

Or getting a used pair. You can also try carefully pulling the at the headband.

I have a pair that was from 2006 with the old drivers, and there is a distinct "veil" but even then it's a world-beater.

Last year I ordered a pair of the "new" drivers with some replacement pads. It was like night and day different, and a renewed interest in the HD650s.

Surprisingly, you can still buy parts--enough so that you can build one yourself.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2015, 04:36:47 PM »
My old HD650 has much less clamping force than the new HD600 I had for measurements.
The HD600 gave me a headache after a few hours. Never had that with my older HD650's not even when new.

Below the exact same HD650 (black driver) with original (softer and more compliant) pads and the same HD650 with a set of new pads.
This plot is only to show relative differences.

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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2015, 04:44:23 PM »
Quote from: Za Warudo on May 15, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
Not trying to defend HF, but the HD650 is the highest rated headphone on there.

You are incorrect, the LCD-3 is graded higher: (the HF rating system seem borked)

http://www.head-fi.org/products/audeze-lcd3-planar-magnetic-headphone

5 star: 63%
4 star: 38%
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2015, 05:02:18 PM »
At the prices the HD650 can be attained for new today, it's quite a steal. I remember it was nearly impossible to snag one for $250 used a couple years ago. I've owned several of them in the past and I never felt like there was a veil, especially when paired with a proper amp. However, the HD800 does outclass it in almost every way, especially in resolution and spaciousness. I also tend to prefer a "warmer" signature, but the HD800 with Anax mods and Yggy bass/smoothness doesn't make me miss any of the HD650 "darkness". You can have your cake and eat it too, you just need to pay for the cake.
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