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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #150 on: May 11, 2015, 08:25:11 PM »
I find the idea of reference quite troubling, and I don't like it that today lots of products are being labelled reference. I did a search on Schiit, Eddie Current and Cavalli, and I didn't find a single 'reference' word used. I am very curious and I wish Jason can tell us why he and Mike Moffat don't use the word 'reference'.

To me 'reference' is a much more difficult idea than 'revealing'. If something is reference, it not only tells you what's wrong with the recording, but also tells you how much the wrong is.
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #151 on: May 11, 2015, 08:41:49 PM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on May 11, 2015, 07:35:45 PM
I suppose I'm misconstruing what you said then. It just seems to me iBuds are perfectly capable of meeting those conditions is what I mean by that.

Okay, you know I think the Earpods are actually a pretty good phone (http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,1546.0.html), so, in actual fact, they're indeed a pretty good all-rounder. But, we're talking about phones that are closer even to reference/balanced/neutral. These better phones will have better extension than the Earpods, for instance, though the Earpods are still pretty good in the freqs they cover. The $50 Tenores are even better and a brilliant all-rounder, in fact.

To me, reference/neutral/balanced is (as close to) not interfering with what was actually recorded, ie the less coloured/more linear a phone, the closer it is to being called reference/neutral.
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #152 on: May 11, 2015, 08:44:27 PM »
Anax is saying use better gear. HD800 from mobo out to V200 is like having me drive F1 car with 4 cylinders not working.
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #153 on: May 11, 2015, 08:48:39 PM »
How's this one sound out of the Angie? There is an edginess/sibilance in her voice that sounds natural to me, and part of the information in the recording. Could just be me though.

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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #154 on: May 11, 2015, 08:58:09 PM »
Quote from: purr1n on May 11, 2015, 08:44:27 PM

Anax is saying use better gear. HD800 from mobo out to V200 is like having me drive F1 car with 4 cylinders not working.


Oh, but I've got the message LOUD and CLEAR a number of times, alright, but this sparrow remains very sceptical that the difference between the MBP > V200 and other source(s) and amp(s) would be as significant as you both suggest. Why the scepticism? Well, that's a different story for a different time.

Still, the point I was originally making was that I simply don't think my Angie should be regarded as a forgiving phone, nor my UERM as the most ultra revealing phone. I find my own pair of Angies—with my gear (MBP, AK240, 5G Touch, V200)—a bit more resolving than the UERM.

Kinda going round in circles at this stage... 
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #155 on: May 12, 2015, 12:14:29 PM »
Quote from: recarcar on May 11, 2015, 08:48:39 PM

How's this one sound out of the Angie? There is an edginess/sibilance in her voice that sounds natural to me, and part of the information in the recording. Could just be me though.


The "edginess/sibilance" is definitely there but it doesn't sound natural to me, certainly not as natural as the David Sylvian track I posted earlier in this thread.
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #156 on: May 12, 2015, 12:52:13 PM »
Here's a pattern I've noticed over the years (this is not directed at anyone in particular):

Find someone who's got a review sample (or freebie) and and all the raving and gushing will be guaranteed.

Audition in a shop or at a meet and, particularly those not intending to purchase the product, well…guess you can guess the outcome.

Then there's those poor souls like the endearing sparrow, who won't review a product (even when having been approached in the past to do so) and has no access to audio shops or meets to audition most of the gear often discussed on these forums… Hard to get genuinely honest impressions in this case, too, as one (often unconsciously) tends to rationalise expensive purchases and fool…

And then there's something called sheep & group mentality, peer pressure, but that's another fascinating subject… Gotta love the sheer number of so-called reviewers and audio gurus/authorities we see these days, along with their arse-licking followers — oh, the wonders of the Internet and copy & paste!
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #157 on: May 12, 2015, 12:54:35 PM »
Here's a track most revealing phones I've heard have a hard time making this song truly enjoyable — upper mids and treble being quite problematic. Warm phones obviously fare better but fail with so many other tracks/albums. The Angie does very, very well with this track (brilliantly, actually).

« Last Edit: May 12, 2015, 01:29:39 PM by music_4321 »
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #158 on: May 12, 2015, 05:50:20 PM »
Okay, tell me what Paranoid Android sounds like on your Angies and that will tell me everything I need to know.
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #159 on: May 12, 2015, 07:41:11 PM »
It sounds pretty awful. Creep is, in fact, the only Radiohead track that sounds ok with the Angies.
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