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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #110 on: April 27, 2015, 10:27:17 PM »
Quote from: proedros on April 27, 2015, 09:51:26 PM

vinyl rips.

(pm'ed)

IMO getting a good remaster makes a far larger benefit in what I hear than getting a 24/96 vinyl rip (if that really makes any difference).

I doubt if you can even get the difference between a CD quality and a 320 (or even 256) mp3 in a proper ABX set-up.
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #111 on: April 28, 2015, 12:13:36 PM »
Quote from: proedros on April 27, 2015, 09:51:26 PM
music , since i like your posts (you almost single-handedly got me to get K3003) and i get you dig some of the music i dig (intelligent music mostly) , i will give you a heads-up on the best sonic source around these days - save your money on all these hot-shot remasters etc

vinyl rips.

(pm'ed)


Hi proedros,

Thanks for the kind words re: my posts and your K3003 purchase.

As for vinyl rips, I honestly don't believe these, even in HI-Res, yield better sonic results than a standard 16/44 CD transfer of the same album, at least in a way that our ears may actually perceive such differences. The few vinyl rips I heard about 5 years ago (at the insistence of a HF'er) were not convincing enough to warrant searching high and low for more of these.

In the case of Aqualung, maaaany years ago I had the UK vinyl pressing of the album; then I got a 2002 (?) re-master of the same album. Although both were very good in the dynamic range department, both versions weren't very good, IMO (read: I loved the music but the sonics left quite a bit to be desired). The 2011 S Wilson re-master may not be as good as far as dynamic range goes (still pretty good, though), but it's certainly a significant improvement (read: you don't need golden ears) over the original vinyl pressing — you can actually hear instruments better, more clearly, in quite a few parts of the album, with more space between the notes, and in many instances instruments sound more realistic. So, in my not so humble opinion, no matter how you rip the original 1971 recording, sonics won't vary (much). I'd very likely take a 192kbps AAC rip of the SW re-master over a FLAC vinyl rip of the original album.

(thanks for the PM)
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #112 on: April 30, 2015, 12:02:02 AM »
My (imaginary) friend has just received his second pair. Here's what he's said so far:

"Some interesting things right out of the box. My remote [the bass dial] for the second pair is in perfect shape. No missing marks on the dial. The pots have a 45 on them (like yours) rather than the 46 that was on mine. The screwdriver that came with the second set is completely different from the first. It’s much smaller and has a white handle. The first set had a longer screwdriver with a blue handle.

Very odd!

What in the hell. So I put the phones on, and realized the fit was much different. This doesn’t feel right I thought. Went to grab the first pair and… the second set is noticeably larger than the first. WTF. They are not physically similar at all. The second set is much larger. I don’t know even… how is this possible? It’s not just the screwdrivers, the damaged letter, but the actual phones? LOL The carbon fiber weave on my second pair looks like shit compared to my first on top of being bigger? Jesus man :l I don’t even

I think I am done with JH man. I have never seen a company give so few fucks, it’s mind boggling. Both sides look like shit. Like they just slapped the thing together, it looks incredibly slipshod.

I am thinking of sending these back to [XXX]. These just look gross and not at ALL befitting of a thousand dollar IEM. Final WTF. These sound MUCH better than the set that I came from. HOLY SHIT, the first pair have completely fucked up centering in comparison. It took all of 2 second to verify this. Vocals are now clearly centered. Sigh… Why… just why.

Jesus, I am laughing my ass off over this entire thing. The first pair looks cosmetically MUCH better, but sounds COMPLETELY fucked up in comparison to the second pair which looks like shit. I HAVE VERIFIED THE EXTENT OF JH’S LACK OF QUALITY CONTROL

WTF man. THIS IS WHAT I WAS EXPECTING of the Angie’s sound when I heard you raving over it. This thing sounds night and day different from the first pair. NO JOKE. God this entire time I drove myself crazy over this whole imbalance thing. Through the two weeks of listening to the Angie, my brain had somehow wrapped itself around the signature and it started sounding almost normal. It’s no fucking wonder the Angie was so incredibly disappointing compared to everything else I had on hand. Crazy what your mind will adjust to given enough time.

I hope [XXX] would understand about this whole thing, but this thing looks like shit compared to the first pair, and I really want to exchange it. Here’s the thing though: what if my second pair looks no better, or worse, sounds like the first pair? This second pair sticks out of my ears like crazy. God what an incredibly frustrating ordeal."
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #113 on: April 30, 2015, 12:10:12 AM »
I am amused
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #114 on: April 30, 2015, 12:14:56 AM »
A bit more entertainment for ya:

"I'll be sending these back, but god damn it dude this entire exercise has been incredibly annoying. The silver lining is that in the 4 minutes that I’ve heard, I’m convinced the SQ will make it worth it. God, so this is what Stockholm syndrome feels like huh? Going to message [XXX] right now"
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #115 on: April 30, 2015, 12:31:47 AM »
"Okay, I’m a few songs in and tested with all of the problematic tracks that the first pair struggled with and I’m sold. No bizarre midrange recession like the first pair, no center image problems, no weird variable sound staging, no weird treble spike, no issues with near sibilance. Everything just sounds right. Good grief. Looks like the sparrow has absolved himself yet again"
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #116 on: April 30, 2015, 07:57:44 AM »
Today my angie's arrived (you're so persuasive)! Since the only headphones we share in common are the hd600 and the angie's, it seems logical to use that as a reference.  Straight outta the box, it seems that the hd600's midrange is far more forward, such as in vocals (and if i'm honest a bit more pleasing perhaps because i'm used to that), but the angie's bass and treble have more body (drums sound fantastic).  Would you agree with that?
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #117 on: April 30, 2015, 08:11:31 AM »
o forgot to mention, I noticed the difference in midrange forwardness in the song "we've only just begun" by the Carpenters, for comparison.
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #118 on: April 30, 2015, 01:58:06 PM »
Quote from: Combitoob on April 30, 2015, 07:57:44 AM
Today my angie's arrived (you're so persuasive)! Since the only headphones we share in common are the hd600 and the angie's, it seems logical to use that as a reference.  Straight outta the box, it seems that the hd600's midrange is far more forward, such as in vocals (and if i'm honest a bit more pleasing perhaps because i'm used to that), but the angie's bass and treble have more body (drums sound fantastic).  Would you agree with that?

Have just A/B'd both phones and, if anything, the Angies are just a tad more forward, overall, and resolving than the HD600s in that part of the spectrum. I used The Carpenters track you used (and also another from my music library).

EDIT: Oh yes, drums sound great on the Angies and snare drums, in particular, sound very right, as these tend to sound somewhat/pretty off with several phones.
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Re: JH Audio Angie (Universal)
« Reply #119 on: April 30, 2015, 08:26:17 PM »
I found that by fiddling with the tips a bit, I was getting a better insertion angle and better sound.  In fact, over the last day they've sounded more nuanced as I've accustomed to their sound vs full size headphones.  Do you use the stock tips? (I was thinking about ordering some spinfits)
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