PM-3 is in. Craig likes it. A bit fun bassy, but I think it deserves to be there. Great comfort, great form factor, good price.

which matey is scheduled for the HE-400S and could that bump out the PM-3 from the leaderboard?

PM-3 is in. Craig likes it. A bit fun bassy, but I think it deserves to be there. Great comfort, great form factor, good price.

How big are they in real life? Much larger than the circumaural portables like the momentum?

Ever perplexed on this PM3 craze...

Bass was loud, unrefined, round (not at all punchy or fun), completely atonal and not to mention dismissing very basic information. Even though everything else was ok, it made them sound very low- mid-fi-ish.. Am more and more starting to doubt my amp/source gear.

That's it, going to the shop today with my Lecks. We'll see if it's just a faulty unit they have for demo.

Say bass from M4U2 (with or without NC) is much more palpable and easier to "tab".

Anyway, I have to partly eat my words. Be it the UHA-6 or just its low output impedance, it does open these up and not even that marginally (I think it was Marv that pointed out that low output Z is a prerequisite). That's right, I did buy them in the end. 

The bass clarity on the PSB's is simply astounding though, so it's difficult to beat those. In all other regards these shred those or the Spirit Pros to smithereens.

Overall I like the inoffencive signature, effortless presentation and never piercing treble, which the Focals sometimes portrayed, but not badly. I thought I would never be commenting on staging qualities, but these are a bit closed in vs. the SP for instance. If the bass was better, these would be winners. Most of the info is there, but you just sort of have to focus on it to make out the pieces. The only poor quality of these..

What won me over though is the overall form factor. They stay on my head whether biking or jumping on a skateboard in high speed. Pretty good for something not so light weight.