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Author Topic: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.  (Read 35822 times)

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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #200 on: August 27, 2015, 02:12:43 AM »
You don't 'need' a fancy cable. You do 'need' a cable that is actually up to spec and not doing funny stuff to the signal. Read that how you like.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #201 on: August 27, 2015, 02:35:13 AM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on October 11, 2014, 04:11:03 AM
We've talked about this many times here.  To repeat as Dave and others have mentioned, 95% of your so-called 'digital' stream occurs in an analog verse.  The part that is digital is the part you'll never ever see or touch.  Unless your name is Tron.

Uh, actually 100.0% of digital electronics is really analog.  The difference is only in the electronic design.

Inside an IC, the "digital" signals are represented by electrical voltages that are analog.  Only in "meaning" is that voltage "digital".  In a digital circuit, the design will do different things based on the mathematics of the "digital" values that the analog voltages represent, whereas in an analog circuit, the design will do different things based on the analog voltages and currents.

This is why a music playing PC can sound different depending on what other processes are running on the PC, and why Jriver MC sounds better than foobar, even though both the Jriver and foobar people scream that it cannot sound different (because in both cases they are software engineers, not electronics engineers like Jason and Mike, and so they think in terms of bits rather than electronic design issues).
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #202 on: August 27, 2015, 03:28:42 AM »
Quote from: Original_Ken on August 27, 2015, 02:35:13 AM
Uh, actually 100.0% of digital electronics is really analog.  The difference is only in the electronic design.

Inside an IC, the "digital" signals are represented by electrical voltages that are analog.  Only in "meaning" is that voltage "digital".  In a digital circuit, the design will do different things based on the mathematics of the "digital" values that the analog voltages represent, whereas in an analog circuit, the design will do different things based on the analog voltages and currents.

This is why a music playing PC can sound different depending on what other processes are running on the PC, and why Jriver MC sounds better than foobar, even though both the Jriver and foobar people scream that it cannot sound different (because in both cases they are software engineers, not electronics engineers like Jason and Mike, and so they think in terms of bits rather than electronic design issues).

Well I was trying to not be absolutist by accounting for a metaphysical quantum consciousness where a computational space might occur before actually manifesting itself physically, but no matter. Carry on. I'm very modal, so 100% is not really in my vocabulary. I'd prefer to go all in and say 115%.

Edit-gave you kudos for having the balls to say what you said.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #203 on: September 02, 2015, 05:18:40 PM »
Got a Schiit Wyrd. Works great until I used it in Foobar with WASAPI, at which point it works for a short while before flipping out and distorting/squealing horribly. WTF.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #204 on: September 02, 2015, 05:27:44 PM »
First JRiver, now Foobar+Wyrd. Me thinks you have interesting Windows issues on your PC.  popcorn
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #205 on: September 02, 2015, 07:42:31 PM »
Quote from: Luckbad on September 02, 2015, 05:18:40 PM
Got a Schiit Wyrd. Works great until I used it in Foobar with WASAPI, at which point it works for a short while before flipping out and distorting/squealing horribly. WTF.
Hmm did you try WASAPI push and event? I usually use event, but I think with the Wyrd, I had to use push. Also, maybe try adjusting your buffer sizes... sorry if these are stupid answers, they've just worked for me in the past... hope you can get it going.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #206 on: September 03, 2015, 12:36:55 AM »
I've been bugging Schiit. They suggested trying Wasapi Event, Push, and DS. DS lasts the longest before freaking out.

Happens with JRiver and Foobar, but only with Wyrd.

Taking it home with my to try with a better USB cable on a better computer.

It doesn't happen in normal Windows. Weird as crap.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #207 on: September 03, 2015, 02:56:15 AM »
Analyse your DPC latency and lookout of any usb driver software that might be interfering. Also it sounds weird, but thermal monitoring software, antiviruses might be potential causes so take a look at those as well.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #208 on: September 03, 2015, 04:20:57 AM »
I'm having no problems at all with it at home. Same cable, same PSU, same DAC.

WTF.

I'll troubleshoot more at work tomorrow.

I guess it's good that it works fine at home.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #209 on: September 03, 2015, 04:35:42 AM »
Used a Dragonfly to test the Wyrd. Did the tests a couple times with and without from the same USB port at the same volume etc.

The Dragonfly doesn't measure terribly well no matter what, but it is objectively better with the Wyrd.

http://www.basshead.club/measurements/dragonfly/dragonfly_wyrd.html
http://www.basshead.club/measurements/dragonfly/dragonfly_no_wyrd.html
http://www.basshead.club/measurements/dragonfly/dragonfly_wyrd_compare.html
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