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Author Topic: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.  (Read 35808 times)

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Marvey

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This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« on: June 29, 2014, 03:12:14 AM »
OK. I'll make this short.


UPDATE 6/29/2014 :
also see Test #2 (comparison with Audio-GD Master 7 DAC built in USB)
http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,1652.msg43849.html#msg43849

Test system:
  • Eddie Current 4-44 tube amp, vintage 45s of various sort and amperex 5842
  • Fostex FE168 Sigma drivers in BK-16 enclosure (wrong box really, but EQ'd to work. wanted to use these drivers b/c they more resolving than the FE166s)
  • Audio-GD Master DAC w/ DACLadder's HDMI i2s input mod
  • Empirical Audio Off-Ramp 5 (AMB power supply, Hynes regulator upgrade, USB cable with cut +5, NO turboclock upgrade on OR5)
Test tracks:
  • Eagles - Hotel CA from the XRCD Hell Freezes Over
  • Sarah McLachlan - Elsewhere from Fumbling... (original CD)
  • Daft Punk - Get Lucky (lol)
Test setup:

Plugged in Wyrd between laptop and OR5.
Laptop --USB--> Wyrd --USB w/cut 5v--> OR5 --HDMI i2s--> AGD-M7

Test result:

Makes the OR5 sound like it has the $700 turbo clock option. No Schiit!

For reference on the OR5 and effect of the turboclocks, see links below:
 
http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,925.0.html
http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,925.msg24520.html#msg24520
http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,1111.msg30693.html#msg30693

Next Tests:

Will test on AGD-M7's USB which is known to be craptastic. Let's see what it does. For reference points:
  • Ciunas USB to coax adapter brought some focus and precision and corrected tonal oddities of the M7.
  • OR5 USB to i2s brought a lot of focus and precision, corrected tonal oddities, and significantly increased resolution.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 06:55:38 AM by marvey »
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2014, 03:17:39 AM »
Forgot to attach pictures.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2014, 03:24:54 AM »
Do tell us on how it improves USB32! If it does, I'm getting one too.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2014, 03:30:16 AM »
Marv, making me spend more money again. Curious to hear if it mostly helps with certain recordings, and if it helps with the gungnir on USB. If it makes mediocre recordings sound worse... then it's probably not for me.

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I think the turbo-clocks could be too much of a good thing. Without the turbo-clocks, sounds are not as super articulate or precise, but this leaves the treble more relaxed and less tight-assed.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2014, 03:40:38 AM by thegunner100 »
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2014, 05:08:36 AM »
Had a similar experience with the olimex USB-ISO isolator feeding my Hugo. Brings back the connection to music.

I ordered a USB3 fiber cable with receiver that has a +5V input. This should provide:
- Total galvanic isolation from the laptop (which seems to be quite dirty considering the effect of the USB isolator).
- Better 5V signal.

Let's see how that goes.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2014, 08:45:21 AM »
But dis nae be booty...?
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2014, 05:23:19 PM »
Quote from: Eric_C on June 29, 2014, 08:45:21 AM
But dis nae be booty...?

Not enough reviews in yet.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2014, 07:16:18 PM »
So I'm guessing this will have a lot less impact if you have a good PC?
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2014, 07:24:18 PM »
Quote from: blue on June 29, 2014, 07:16:18 PM
So I'm guessing this will have a lot less impact if you have a good PC?

I don't think that's the correct way to look at it.  Unless by 'good PC' you mean you already have some sort of isolating reclocker card installed on the PCI bus.  I've always built my own PCs with the best components available, I doubt most folks with their off the shelf Dells and Macs are doing better than myself.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman!
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2014, 08:08:46 PM »
Quote from: blue on June 29, 2014, 07:16:18 PM
So I'm guessing this will have a lot less impact if you have a good PC?

Depends what you mean by "good." There are a couple of things you can do in BIOS to improve performance, and you can run Fidelizer or a stripped out, music only OS like VortexBox which will help as well, but what you really need is a linear or battery main power supply, preferably direct to the ATX input rather than through a 12V socket which then has to go through cheap onboard DC-DC regulators, and a dedicated USB output card like the JCAT, SoTM, or PPA, fed from that same PSU or a second dedicated supply rather than board power.

If you have all of that in place, the Wyrd probably won't do that much. Of course that begs the question, just how close can you get to a $1K+ dedicated server with the Wyrd at 1/10 the cost.
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