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Author Topic: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.  (Read 35822 times)

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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #190 on: October 19, 2014, 10:06:08 AM »
Quote from: firev1 on October 19, 2014, 09:47:29 AM
Quote from: cooperpwc on October 19, 2014, 08:48:44 AM
Wyrd + Stoner Acoustics UD120 is quite impressive. (Better than Wyrd + Modi IMO.) The improvement on the UD120 alone is substantial. It is still not resolving enough for the HD800 but brings out the soundstage layering on the Lab 1 that I had been having a hard time getting with anything but the Calyx M.

Right now its is Wyrd + MicroDAC for the HD800 and Wyrd + UD120 for the Lab 1. Yggy looms.

Hey cooper, any comparo of the UD120 and the ODAC? I have been debating with myself on getting one till someone said on HF that the ODAC still comes out on top.

On another note, updated the measurements(with the ODAC) in the previous pages, turns out the JTest tones generated in ARTA never go beyond 16 bit even if you specify 24 bit. So heres some with 24 bit tones.
http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,1652.msg48164.html#msg48164

Sorry but I have never heard the ODAC.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #191 on: October 20, 2014, 02:54:21 PM »
Got the Wyrd in today and set it up to try it with my Matrix x-sabre. And it won't connect with the x-sabre while I use a usb cable without ground/power lines. The X-sabre works directly in the PC with only signal USB cable, any idea why it won't work with the wyrd?

Edit: Just tested it with my 5m printer cable, now it works. Still no idea why it won't work with the 5V cut, I remember others using this kind of usb cable with wyrd. And the X-sabre clearly works with signal only. I am very confused right now.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #192 on: October 20, 2014, 02:57:26 PM »
Wyrd needs the ground from the PC side.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #193 on: October 20, 2014, 03:09:46 PM »
Quote from: marvey on October 20, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
Wyrd needs the ground from the PC side.

Thank you for fast answer! :) Yes I know.

PC -> Normal USB cable -> Wyrd -> Normal USB cable -> X-Sabre. Working as intented.
PC -> Normal USB cable -> Wyrd -> 5V cut USB cable -> X-Sabre. Not working.
PC -> 5V cut USB cable -> X-Sabre. Working.

Anyone experienced the same thing? Or just any ideas?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2014, 03:37:46 PM by BleaK »
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #194 on: October 20, 2014, 04:12:38 PM »
It looks like the X-Sabre needs a normal USB cable for a "handshake" with the wyrd. Oh well..
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #195 on: October 20, 2014, 05:53:39 PM »
Quote from: BleaK on October 20, 2014, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: marvey on October 20, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
Wyrd needs the ground from the PC side.

Thank you for fast answer! :) Yes I know.

PC -> Normal USB cable -> Wyrd -> 5V cut USB cable -> X-Sabre. Not working.


Hmmm, I thought the Wyrd was essentially a clean 5v power supply for usb, with a clock.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #196 on: October 20, 2014, 05:59:49 PM »
Yes, but USB receiver still wants to see the power from PC side. Just that power going to the DAC side is now cleaner, so pointless to do tweaks on the PC side / USB input.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #197 on: October 21, 2014, 07:02:19 AM »
Well got to play around with this, and it's definitely a great little toy well worth it price. It might be the new toy effect, some sorts of bias or my USB ports being horrible bad, but after some hours on this thing these are some ramblings I wrote and small changes I heard with the X-sabre:

Bass: I always felt that the x-sabre had great impact and good timbre, but a sort of "blurpy" bass. Wyrd fixes some of that, leaving the good impact, but now with a bit more tone (e.x. you can hear better what a bass player plays).

Treble: I can understand why someone said that the x-sabre has a "sabre" treble. I think the Wyrd fixes that. Cymbals now sounds "fuller" and "darker" instead of "spitty" and "thin". YMMV.

Black background: This was already a very strong point for the x-sabre, but it got somewhat better (blacker?). Sounds just seems to pop better out of nothing, which leads me to the biggest change-

Imaging/focus: I love the soundstage with the x-sabre, it's honestly one of the best thing with this dac besides being a wellrounded and "relaxed". However I sometimes felt that the imaging took a small hit for the big soundstage, like some notes are blurry and not easily picked out. The biggest change I have with the Wyrd now some hours in, is that the focus is better. If I close my eyes I feel I can point exactly where the sound is coming from. At the same time the wyrd made it easier the pick apart instruments and voices. Like when a chorus sings I can now hear the individual voices.

All in all, this be good schiit  :)p1
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #198 on: October 28, 2014, 09:29:39 AM »
So after further testing I find that by using a parametric EQ trick, I can 'compensate' for the difference in the bass between the usb and cat7 data paths.  By adding 3.5 to 4.5dB at 15Hz with a Q of 0.18 as a dsp function, the bass actually has yet even more inner details only now it has that same satisfying heft.


Which then just leaves the 'veil' or 'harmonic enrichment' aspect of differences, which I can live with, since all of my other tell tales also confirm that the usb, using the Weird Schiit and a decent cable is a wonderful solution for those in search of an easy (and astonishingly low cost) way to 'optimize' the usb data path.


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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #199 on: August 27, 2015, 01:21:24 AM »
Do I need any fancy USB cables for this thing? Pyst cable?
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