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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #140 on: August 19, 2015, 04:03:54 AM »
Right now, I need Leckerton with older iPhone 4S but it is pretty damn good straight out of iPhone 6+ with Tidal FLAC hi-res.  It is still fun to cycle through head/ear phones but I still get impressed with UERM whenever I switch back to them. The only IEMs I really ever like to rotate in are the FitEar TG!334.  I think they have more flaws but I like them too for a different sound/experience and bassier/fun sound.  I still recommend UERM over everything that I have heard so far.  Only pair that I might also like to try long term are the ES5 based on Anax's longstanding reco.  But the FitEar I can resell/share and the ES5 are customs.  Another option is to get UE4 and then some other fun/bassy pair for alternating sound sigs and trying to enjoy both.


The fact that you can tell the differences of gear so well shows you that pairing/scaling is happening with the good stuff.  Luckily there are a lot more options than we have had and the bad pairings are known or figured out pretty quickly with UERM.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #141 on: August 19, 2015, 04:25:53 AM »
Surprisingly, I couldn't find any comparison between UERM and Noble K10, which is another highly regarded IEM at HF (but hey, it's HF), in this thread. Has anyone listened to both and could share some opinions? Whether one is clearly overall superior to another or they're apples vs oranges with advantages/disadvantages?

And on a side note, is UERM also availabe in universal form or only as CIEM?
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #142 on: August 19, 2015, 04:32:02 AM »
Only CIEM and that has been confirmed directly on multiple occasions to me by UE themselves.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #143 on: August 19, 2015, 04:48:04 AM »
Quote from: songmic on August 19, 2015, 04:25:53 AM
Surprisingly, I couldn't find any comparison between UERM and Noble K10, which is another highly regarded IEM at HF (but hey, it's HF), in this thread. Has anyone listened to both and could share some opinions? Whether one is clearly overall superior to another or they're apples vs oranges with advantages/disadvantages?

Nah K10 wasn't my cup of tea. Mellow and slow. $1599 is a colossal rip-off IMO.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #144 on: August 19, 2015, 04:53:21 AM »
I've heard it present two different tunings over the years. One is more bassy and warm to the point of being almost syrupy. The other was more neutralish, refined and articulate. That said, I think the K10 appeals to people who would prefer a slightly more relaxed top end and bit more bottom end warmth. It is more forgiving and balanced for an easier listen for less than stellar stuff going on upstream. Different approaches to listening. I would not consider the K10 something that scales quite as well as the UERM can.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #145 on: August 19, 2015, 07:10:43 AM »
Quote from: CEE TEE on August 19, 2015, 04:03:54 AM
Right now, I need Leckerton with older iPhone 4S but it is pretty damn good straight out of iPhone 6+ with Tidal FLAC hi-res.

Okay help me out here, do you guys really bring a portable rig of 1-3 devices besides your phone when walking outside or riding the sub/bus or whatever? That just boggles my mind. I was contemplating getting a DAP like the Plenue 1/M or AK.jr, but I don't think I would use it to be honest. Im just rocking an iPhone with good isolating IEMs like AKG323XS when outNabout. It's not HD800s, but it sure is less hassle.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #146 on: August 19, 2015, 10:56:02 AM »
Quote from: eddypoon on August 18, 2015, 10:31:38 PM
is it worth to have a expensive amplifier for UERM... I suggest you are asking does it scale with better equipment, right?  (i better leave it to others to answer =)

A used bifrost (wait for upgrade) plus a quiet amplifier will suit your needs. There are plenty to use from the Pyrate Leaderboard on here. hmmm Valhalla 2, may be? I used UERM with Asgard 2 but I sold  the latter - It was good and works well too.

Have you looked at Anaxilus's signature / profile gear list? e.g. Geek Out 450 (now v.2)>Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (4267B opamps)>UERM  so good, but need battery...

Thanks. I've looked at Anax's gear but I'm not sure it fits what I'm looking for. I couldn't use the portable rig with speakers (no preamp / balanced outputs). I don't think the Yggy has a preamp either and I'm not sure the Eddie Current amps would be suitable for the UERM.

As I say, if there's really nothing suitable I might just go with the portable setup and get a separate DAC / preamp but I'd rather not double up.

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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #147 on: August 19, 2015, 11:33:30 AM »
Don't think you will find what you're looking for in an all-in-one unit like the DAC1, that sounds good. Find an amp with pre-outs for monitors. Mjolnir 2 + Multibit Gugnir? Other pyrates have to chime in if that'll work well for UERMs.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #148 on: August 19, 2015, 01:52:34 PM »
^Do you mean the Benchmark DAC1?  I had and enjoyed that DAC for a long time, was great to do comparisons between the SS headphone outs of DAC1 and tube amps to see what the tube amps were doing.  Or to have HD600 in one DAC1 headphone out with the HD650 in the other to quick-switch between them.


But: the UERM out of the DAC1 always seemed a little dull and not very compelling.  I preferred UERM out of amped iPhone 3GS/4S but new iPhone 6+ and using Tidal FLAC sounds good ampless.  Especially considering having something else attached and trying to deal with the extra bulk on top of the already large 6+. 


I do need and keep the Leckerton attached to my back-up iPhone 4S with 3M Command Strips (basically velcro) all the time and it is a fairly reasonable stack. Plus the Leck volume control is much better than the big digital steps of Apple products which I really don't like- often too loud or not loud enough.


Something to note is that the UERM do have a difficult impedance curve for some amps to control.  If your UERM seem rolled-off at the top, do try them out of other devices or try a Leckerton to see if it cures the issue (unless you like the effect).  I've seen measurements showing some amps to not control the UERM as well and so in that sense too, the UERM can "scale" with better gear.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #149 on: August 19, 2015, 03:13:01 PM »
Thanks for the inputs.  I bought the Noble 4S earlier this week, despite being tempted by the MD, but figured your UERM recommendations still apply.  I imagine the UERM is even more exacting than the 4S. 
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