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Author Topic: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.  (Read 20863 times)

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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #90 on: April 13, 2015, 06:06:54 PM »
Quote from: tiohn on April 13, 2015, 05:39:58 PM
What exactly is the issue with the new demos? Are there problems with them? Problems with new custom units? I can't find any details on what's up with your latest round of UERM issues.

No....

I sampled a new batch of demos to ensure exactly what I said in the prior post. This is about the discrepancy in the OP.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #91 on: April 13, 2015, 07:14:11 PM »
Now I understand. Thanks.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #92 on: April 13, 2015, 08:10:27 PM »
I've had mine for a year but we have never succeeded being friends. They have many fine qualities but I have had issues with the voicing from day one. It can be a poor seal or whatever but when I compare their voicing with live unamplified music - have you noticed how warm it sounds - they lack body and low bass to the degree that I cannot enjoy the grove. One dimension is missing for me. To clarify, they do have bass its just down in level compared to the mids. Sorry, just my personal opinion. Maybe I just have the wrong expectations and I cant have both (resolution and natural voicing) with a IEM as you can with speakers or full size headphones or I just happened to chose the wrong brand.

Mine are stock and all other aspects of the design are fine I've had absolutely no problems. My impressions were done by a professional audio person (cant remember title now) that UE said were perfect. 

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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #93 on: April 13, 2015, 08:15:11 PM »
I take it that you're using it straight out of the Frace m920?
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #94 on: April 13, 2015, 09:55:26 PM »
Should have plenty of midbass relative mids. The only possible bass issue should be low bass extension. If it sounds lean something is wrong somewhere. This is backed up by quite a bit of subjective and objective data.

What is your reference?
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #95 on: April 14, 2015, 07:32:55 PM »
Yes, maybe something is wrong. My ear channel and the UERM may be incompatible, seal obviously but I doubt it or my expectations could be unrealistic.

I tried them with the Grace and my Lavry DA11 (sold now) and my FIIO X3 but no tube amp so far. Will try to do that as soon possible.

Plenty of midbass, no, not in mine.

I should send them back for a check up but cost and plain disappointment have made me put that off. Maybe I'll find the motivation talking to you guys.

My reference is live unamplified music (like a choir or piano) as well as my ATC's (scm100 a) speakers in my dedicated room. These are professional monitors meaning they are used in recording studios, not just a fancy name.

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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #96 on: April 14, 2015, 07:39:08 PM »
Yeah, that sounds wrong. You should have neutral midbass. One of my basic reference test tracks below performs flawlessly on both my modded HD800 and UERM compared to orthos/planars or most anything else short of an Abyss. If you don't have thumping bass on it, something is very wrong.

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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2015, 06:20:20 PM »
Wow, thank you for the that band, bought 3 CDs just now.

Thumping bass, no. Something must be wrong. The bass guitar is there but rather light weight with no sub bass at all very different from my Focals.

You have convinced me that I should send them back for a check up, thanks.

Will keep you updated but expect that it will take a while.

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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2015, 11:04:43 PM »
nice choice of songs Anax, love the tune VooDoo
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #99 on: April 17, 2015, 12:06:19 AM »
Quote from: Ferrum on April 16, 2015, 06:20:20 PM
Wow, thank you for the that band, bought 3 CDs just now.

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Quote from: DigitalFreak on April 16, 2015, 11:04:43 PM
nice choice of songs Anax, love the tune VooDoo

Thx! Helps me pick out low bass issues pretty quickly too, like with the IE800. As soon as that the bass dropped I knew something was quite wrong.
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