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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #130 on: August 17, 2015, 08:19:20 PM »
Similar but slightly different question from me - I'm looking for an amp / DAC combo (or separates if necessary) for my UERM but ideally I'd also like a preamp to use with monitors. And I don't really need it to be portable.

I currently have a Dangerous Music Source but I think the headphone amp is probably unsuitable for IEMs. Sold a Benchmark DAC2 - maybe I should just get another but surely there's an alternative? Looking for something neutral but that matches well with the UERM.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #131 on: August 17, 2015, 08:31:58 PM »
Quote from: Chris F on August 17, 2015, 04:50:31 PM
I'm about to order myself a pair; is the Leckerton uha-6S mkII or 760 still the goto choice for portable amping?  If so, which is the best opamp choice? Thanks!
Quote from: dankef on August 17, 2015, 08:19:20 PM
Similar but slightly different question from me - I'm looking for an amp / DAC combo (or separates if necessary) for my UERM but ideally I'd also like a preamp to use with monitors. And I don't really need it to be portable.

I currently have a Dangerous Music Source but I think the headphone amp is probably unsuitable for IEMs. Sold a Benchmark DAC2 - maybe I should just get another but surely there's an alternative? Looking for something neutral but that matches well with the UERM.

You can look at my gear profile. It's the same reference as many people here have been using. A few people also heard it and commented in the Brooks Berdan meet thread.

760 digital pot is not very good and throws away bits. We don't recommend it hear unless you listen very low, need perfect channel balance and don't mind your music sounding like mp3s.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #132 on: August 17, 2015, 08:38:14 PM »
Quote from: SomeSpace on August 17, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
I have received and been using mine but the results seem to yield a bit of an overemphasised drop off after maybe 2kHz. Maybe someone who has been doing this a bit longer can say something regarding my results.

I have no idea how to attach something, any chance of some help ahah.

Something is wrong if you have roll off after 2khz. Can't say if it's the IEM or something else in your chain on either side of the transducers.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #133 on: August 18, 2015, 11:17:34 AM »
Thanks. I like the look of the portable setup but would have to forego the preamp. And your desktop combo seems like a bit of overkill for the UERM (although maybe I'm wrong). Any other thoughts? I guess most people don't use IEMs with desktop setups (probably for good reason). Maybe a decent DAC / preamp plus separate portable amp would be a better idea.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #134 on: August 18, 2015, 02:54:02 PM »
Quote from: dankef on August 18, 2015, 11:17:34 AM
I guess most people don't use IEMs with desktop setups (probably for good reason). Maybe a decent DAC / preamp plus separate portable amp would be a better idea.

I read your both posts - my guess is you listen mostly at a desk environment, but you like to have a cheap setup for the road with your UERM? (there is nothing wrong using it at a desk setup by the way, in my experience it is more dependent on your social world - can you ignore others when they hail you? )

What is your total budget? in terms of weight, size, money? Which one is a high priority if budget constrained, mobile setup or desk setup? 

Anyways, is this UERM specific? :)
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #135 on: August 18, 2015, 04:02:25 PM »
Quote from: dankef on August 18, 2015, 11:17:34 AM
Thanks. I like the look of the portable setup but would have to forego the preamp. And your desktop combo seems like a bit of overkill for the UERM (although maybe I'm wrong). Any other thoughts? I guess most people don't use IEMs with desktop setups (probably for good reason). Maybe a decent DAC / preamp plus separate portable amp would be a better idea.

What preamp? You must mean the DAC. I don't use preamps or the UERM with my desktop rig. That's for the headphones.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #136 on: August 18, 2015, 08:01:46 PM »
Sorry, what I mean is my ideal setup would be an amp / DAC combo (or separates) with a built-in preamp so I can also use it with powered monitors. The Benchmark DAC2 and Dangerous Source I currently have are examples of this. But I understand these are often built with higher impedance headphones in mind and so are not as suitable for IEMs.

eddypoon - yes, I'm basically looking for a desk rig specifically for the UERM. If I can't get something suitable, that's fine - I'll just look for a portable rig and do something different for speakers. Budget is a bit difficult since I'm in Australia and the dollar is tanking. I would say up to $2,000 USD total but I'd like to spend a lot less. I'm not sure (although I'm happy to be corrected) it's worth having a very expensive amp for the UERM. The DAC / pre may be a different story but equally I don't want to spend unnecessarily - for example, I don't need the analog outputs, DSD support etc of something like the Benchmark.
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #137 on: August 18, 2015, 10:31:38 PM »
Quote from: dankef on August 18, 2015, 08:01:46 PM
yes, I'm basically looking for a desk rig specifically for the UERM. Budget is a bit difficult since I'm in Australia and the dollar is tanking. I would say up to $2,000 USD total but I'd like to spend a lot less

is it worth to have a expensive amplifier for UERM... I suggest you are asking does it scale with better equipment, right?  (i better leave it to others to answer =)

A used bifrost (wait for upgrade) plus a quiet amplifier will suit your needs. There are plenty to use from the Pyrate Leaderboard on here. hmmm Valhalla 2, may be? I used UERM with Asgard 2 but I sold  the latter - It was good and works well too.

Have you looked at Anaxilus's signature / profile gear list? e.g. Geek Out 450 (now v.2)>Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (4267B opamps)>UERM  so good, but need battery...

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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #138 on: August 19, 2015, 03:04:42 AM »
Quote from: eddypoon on August 18, 2015, 10:31:38 PM
I suggest you are asking does it scale with better equipment, right?  (i better leave it to others to answer

I'm curious about this too.  All you UERM owners, Anax, CEE TEE, etc., how far have you seen the UERM scale up? 
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Re: Oh UERM. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
« Reply #139 on: August 19, 2015, 03:51:13 AM »
Quote from: Sphinxvc on August 19, 2015, 03:04:42 AM

I'm curious about this too.  All you UERM owners, Anax, CEE TEE, etc., how far have you seen the UERM scale up? 

Be aware, as a CIEM, things will be dependent on your ear shape and how your particular build is able to take advantage of the space available. That said, so far it keeps scaling with all the portable gear I have put it in front of it. it's not as dramatic as the HD800 but neither is the front end gear I've heard which is why I've been trying to push portable audio further and further to catch-up with the desktop world. So far it scales better than all the JHAs I've heard and pretty much anything else so far. I do have something here that might match it in that regard once I get done running it through. We'll see...
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