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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2013, 04:02:57 AM »
Quote from: Stapsy on April 11, 2013, 03:12:03 AM
This leads back into the context of the thread.  Why do I constantly read about DSD capable DACs if the only way to use DSD functionality is essentially downloading DSD music files?  I did a quick google search and there are only a handful of sites offering DSD downloads.  Even assuming a sonic improvement I am not going to rush out to find a DSD capable DAC when the industry is clearly years away from offering any significant quantities of DSD music (this is probably the same thing people said about every other music format when they first came out).  The way I see things going, any DAC I buy will be obsolete by the time the music catalog catches up.  Sure it would be fun to test out the capabilities of a new toy but I don't see any value there at this point.

It's a chicken/egg thing. Nobody wants to sell hydrogen fuel cell cars because there's nowhere to fill up. It's hard to sell DSD music files to people if there's no hardware to play it on. It's a minor deal anyway, DACs like the DSD1796, WM8742, and Sabre can do the conversion whether you decide to make use of it or not, and DSD over USB support makes it easy to get around the digital output limitations of SACD players. Other than that, all you really need is a low pass filter to eliminate the UHF noise in DSD.
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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2013, 11:41:03 PM »
With regard to the nay-saying posts in this thread, especially from industry insiders, we have heard all this before. I am at least as old as Jason S., and I, too, have seen all those formats come and go. IMHO, at least part of the reason was foot-dragging intransigence by manufacturers. The simple answer to the DSD question, based on listening to SACDs, is this: It sounds better. Whatever the relative contributions of mixing and mastering or the DSD process itself, in my experience, music recorded and produced this way just sounds better. :boom:
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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2013, 04:06:42 AM »
I can understand the simple point, but it certainly doesn't present a case for manufacturers to follow Betamax down the rabbit hole.  The only thing that really matters wrt adoption is whether selling DSD tracks actually brings in enough money to change the landscape.  From a market standpoint, has FLAC even put a dent in the mp3 landscape?  I don't see it on Amazon and I don't think most iusers even know what FLAC is.  Plus, if DSD is just about the mastering, then what the heck does anyone need a DSD dac for?  Just have software convert the non bit-perfect signal to PCM and use what you have unless there is a loss int he process.  If you beleive there is, then likely you need to make a case against FLAC versus Wav as well.  Not saying you can or can't, just keeping it real.
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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2013, 08:10:56 AM »
Blah blah argument here, blah blah argument there. Not like there is any(or many if there is) friggin music that even begins to tap on the all advantages of HQ formats today, so why DSD exists again? I will just leave with HQ PCM at most. I have some SACDs with the logo DSD Mix on it that sound like cancer anyways.
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