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MoNelly

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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2013, 06:34:27 AM »

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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2013, 04:26:23 PM »

Looks fishy considering the following:
  • A poster indicated that an original VH CD had similarly great DR numbers.
  • There's no comparison with earlier releases.
  • I don't see much spectral content above 24kHz. It seems to die into a flattish noise floor (with a few spikes here and here.)
  • Some recordings have a brick-wall filter at 22kHz. WTF? Are these up-sampled from the CD? Why is HDtracks releasing content with no information above 22kHz in 24/192 format?
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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2013, 08:20:42 PM »

Looks fishy considering the following:
  • A poster indicated that an original VH CD had similarly great DR numbers.
  • There's no comparison with earlier releases.
  • I don't see much spectral content above 24kHz. It seems to die into a flattish noise floor (with a few spikes here and here.)
  • Some recordings have a brick-wall filter at 22kHz. WTF? Are these up-sampled from the CD? Why is HDtracks releasing content with no information above 22kHz in 24/192 format?

Run a whole bunch of your SACDs and other high-res sources on an analyzer that can do 64kHz sampling with a -140dB noise floor, or 512kHz sampling with about a -120dB noise floor (hello, Stanford) and you may be very surprised by what you find.

Hint: most of them are brickwall source--whether mastered for CD or taken from CD, the information isn't there anymore.
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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2013, 09:43:43 PM »

HD Tracks days this: All VH transfers were from the original EQ production analog tapes.
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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2013, 11:27:33 PM »

I had almost no VH other than vinyl. I wanted some digital copies.

I grabbed the HDTracks set.  It's sounding pretty good, FWIW.


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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2013, 11:32:47 PM »

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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2013, 02:59:25 AM »

Looks fishy considering the following:
  • A poster indicated that an original VH CD had similarly great DR numbers.
  • There's no comparison with earlier releases.
  • I don't see much spectral content above 24kHz. It seems to die into a flattish noise floor (with a few spikes here and here.)
  • Some recordings have a brick-wall filter at 22kHz. WTF? Are these up-sampled from the CD? Why is HDtracks releasing content with no information above 22kHz in 24/192 format?

Available in 24/96 or SUPER AUDIOPHILE 24/192!!! (Tiniest print possible) we bricked some of them at 22Khz, so anything higher than 24/48 is a total waste of your time and hard drive space. Oh wait they don't say that, do they? Who did the transfering? On what? They don't say that either. I guess you're just supposed to hand over your $110 and hope for the best!

What a load of crap. A 1978 VH I first press will cost you about $15 for a NM. The later albums are even less than that.
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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2013, 06:26:54 AM »

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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2013, 09:17:32 AM »

Thanks for the links Grahame. In the end it is all about the mix and master.
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Re: DSD or hires nonsense
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2013, 12:13:45 AM »

The next step is starting a list of pirate-approved labels and mastering studios. :)p3

Perhaps a review site (eh, hard to trust any) or a better version of loudness-war.info, taking into account loudness as well as other crap mastering techniques.
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