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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #120 on: March 11, 2013, 06:42:51 AM »

The frugalhorn geometry looks interesting. I posted preliminary simulation result of the BK16 horn loading effect in the other thread where Marv posted his build pics and measurements. I could run a similar simulation with the frugalhorns if there's interest.

Ideally, I would like to start from 2D drawing to save time with the 3D model creation. Haven't searched the web yet but if someone has that info, please let me know...

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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #121 on: March 11, 2013, 08:53:22 AM »

Ultrabike: EXCELLENT!

This is just perfect to get going. I should be able to generate a simulation quite quickly (probably not before end of next w.e. though, swamped with work). Seems like multiple drivers are proposed, let me knownif there's a particular one you're interested in (note: I'd only use the Fs and maybe Qms though, not a detailed vibration model at this time).
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #122 on: March 11, 2013, 09:01:08 AM »

No problem. I would be interested in the Fostex FE126EN option. Thanks Arnaud!
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #123 on: March 29, 2013, 11:02:54 PM »

Hey Arnaud, you think you could try simulating the same driver (FE126En) in the BK-12 cabinet to see how they compare? Whenever you get a chance that is.

Here's the cabinet plan for that one:

http://www.madisound.com/pdf/bk12m-cab.pdf
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #124 on: March 30, 2013, 12:41:51 AM »

Man, you guys really hate my HL5s don't you?  :)p3

To clarify a few things...the space they're in right now is absolute, 100% shit. The new apartment will be much better (and I plan to treat it as well as I can). Move in day can't get here fast enough. It's not a good representation of what this system is capable of.

As for being a brand nerd...I'm still not 100% clear on what you guys are getting at there. I don't like change and I like a clear upgrade path, but if I hear something better in my personal system and I can get it...I'll get that...Whether it's a 'brand I'm familiar with' or not. (I also talk a lot of shit about upgrade plans but it's mostly pipe dreams as I don't have money to throw around like that)

I have decided that I will not buy stuff blind anymore though, so my buys will be somewhat limited to what I have the power to audition. Hoping to get my hands on LFD, Bryston, Parasound and some Simaudio stuff when it comes time to upgrade.

One thing I will definitely say though is this system is colored. Very much so...and I like it. It's toe tappin' and fun...and that's why I bought it. It's at the completely opposite end of the spectrum from my 009 rig and I enjoy both.

I am starting the think the Leben probably isn't the right choice though. TheWuss (HF) seems to really enjoy his new LFD and so do a couple of guys over at SH so that's a serious consideration down the line.

Either way, the whole DIY kit thing has piqued my interest.

EDIT: I did also audition quite a few speakers before choosing these at multiple locations I could get to around town. I talked mainly about my auditions at Whetstone but I also heard stuff from about twice as many brands from other shops. None did what I wanted as well as the HL5 and that was give me good bass without a sub. I also trust my ears a lot more than I trust Brian, just FYI. I like what I like, it just happened to be what he liked as well.
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #125 on: March 30, 2013, 06:41:57 AM »

To clarify a few things...the space they're in right now is absolute, 100% shit. The new apartment will be much better (and I plan to treat it as well as I can). Move in day can't get here fast enough. It's not a good representation of what this system is capable of.

I have decided that I will not buy stuff blind anymore though, so my buys will be somewhat limited to what I have the power to audition. Hoping to get my hands on LFD, Bryston, Parasound and some Simaudio stuff when it comes time to upgrade.

One thing I will definitely say though is this system is colored. Very much so...and I like it. It's toe tappin' and fun...and that's why I bought it. It's at the completely opposite end of the spectrum from my 009 rig and I enjoy both.

I am starting the think the Leben probably isn't the right choice though. TheWuss (HF) seems to really enjoy his new LFD and so do a couple of guys over at SH so that's a serious consideration down the line.

Use something like XTZ's room analyzer to see what you're dealing with, and then talk to the guys at GIK to get an idea of where you should go. If you're limited in how much wall surface you can cover, RealTraps absorb more than GIK or Audimute panels at a given size, but you pay a big price for that and if you can use more panels it's not really worth it. Vicoustic, Netwell, and Acoustics First have a lot of options for BAD type panels and RPG diffusers that look really nice, not like the typical ugly white foam diffusers.

LFD yes, Bryston and Parasound meh. Simaudio depends.

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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #126 on: March 30, 2013, 02:00:31 PM »

Thanks for the info. It's definitely a priority in the new place. No room mates to bitch about it and a much better space this time.

And another vote for LFD. They're definitely at the top of the audition list right now. The simplicity really hits the nail on the head for me.
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #127 on: August 11, 2013, 10:16:18 AM »

I strongly encourage everyone to quit this HF mickey mouse shit, get rid of (or augment) their headphones, and start building easy speaker kits (of any sort).

OMG, thank you.















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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #128 on: August 11, 2013, 02:09:34 PM »

Speaking of diffusers I've been making my own using the bbc schematic.




I got 5 of 8 done right now.  Honestly they're more for aesthetics than actual acoustics.  Two sets of 4 in groups-- each group having one each made from walnut, naturally grown heart redwood (impossible to get nowdays), pine and whitewood.
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #129 on: August 11, 2013, 03:37:03 PM »

Awesome. I actually have a plan to make about six of them and tell my wife they are artsy wall decorations.
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