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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #110 on: March 09, 2013, 07:22:42 PM »

"“We began our research by studying Helmholtz resonators, which have been used for over a century to tune low frequencies in an acoustic environment. We worked to modify Helmholtz resonator principles to incorporate the full spectrum of sound – not just low frequencies. We found we could tune music with a system of resonators working together in harmony at key acoustic pressure points. Further research led to several patents-pending. The first deals with the use of magnets to contour activation and decay properties of the Vibratron and Magnetron Satellite resonators. The second includes a new resonator shape called the Vibratron that radiates in a 360 degree pattern over a scientifically-arrived-at frequency range. The third utilizes a unique dispersion baffle to precisely control how the Bass Station resonator affects a rooms’ low frequency acoustics. Later we discovered that using spikes to mechanically couple the Bass Station to a room further enhances control of low frequencies (the Bass Station’s Stilettos). Next began a painstaking process to find resonator material with the correct mass that would operate at mathematically-arrived-at frequencies with target decay patterns. The accumulation of these scientific principals sets the Acoustic ART (Analogue Room Treatment) System apart from all other room tuning methods.”"

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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #111 on: March 09, 2013, 07:41:47 PM »

C'mon man. Just give it a rest. I could really care less what other people think is high fidelity or not, but instead like to take bits and pieces and see what works for me.
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2013, 08:30:59 PM »

synergestic research has to be the worst/most annoying company name ever
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #113 on: March 09, 2013, 08:45:32 PM »

a new resonator shape called the Vibratron

Wow... um... oh  my...
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Do you think there may be an acoustic leak from the jack hole? ~Tyll Hertsens

Not sure if I like stuffing one hole or both holes. Tending toward one hole since both holes seems kinda ghey ~Purrin

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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #114 on: March 09, 2013, 08:59:25 PM »

I imagine the Vibratron has a very high WAF.
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #115 on: March 10, 2013, 03:32:37 PM »

http://www.frugal-horn.com/FH3.html

Anyone have any thoughts on these? They are extremely popular at DiyAudio with a few super long threads that I don't particularly want to read through  :)p13

I can't find any measurements and I'm not well versed in horns. I'm thinking about either the Madi kit Marv has or the Frugels. Just as a secondary system for low level listening (my current low efficiency boxes don't lend themselves to it) and DIY amp testing. Would the large rear firing port make them more boomy than the BK-16?

If anyone feels this needs a new thread feel free to do so. This one was already veering off topic so I posted here.
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #116 on: March 10, 2013, 08:02:59 PM »

I almost bought the flatpacks for the frugalhorns. I have not heard them, but I assume they would have less horn coloration in the upper bass region because of the smoothness of the bends. The horn is longer too, which should help with bass loudness and extension.

I decided against them because they use the smaller 4" rivers  (the BK-16 kit I put together uses 6" drivers - I wanted at least some SPL and bass capability for subwoofer integration.) I'm sure the frugalhorn setup will not require a supertweeter at all.
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #117 on: March 10, 2013, 09:27:05 PM »

Any thoughts on placement requirements for the BK-16, BK-12 and frugalhorns?
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #118 on: March 10, 2013, 10:18:35 PM »

I imagine the Vibratron has a very high WAF.
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Re: Headphones as good as $40K speaker systems for a fraction of? BULLSHIT!
« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2013, 04:46:27 AM »

The frugalhorn geometry looks interesting. I posted preliminary simulation result of the BK16 horn loading effect in the other thread where Marv posted his build pics and measurements. I could run a similar simulation with the frugalhorns if there's interest.

Ideally, I would like to start from 2D drawing to save time with the 3D model creation. Haven't searched the web yet but if someone has that info, please let me know...

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