Quote from: Analixus on January 17, 2013, 05:23:59 AMWhat's a non colored headphone? A headphone that masks all recordings equally? There is certainly an aspect to detail retrieval related to driver capability independent of FR bias. If someone can't tell 128kb from 320kb (assuming a properly dynamic track) that phone/rig is masking and simply not accurate.I get what you're saying about ultimately everything is colored, and there are different ways of being colored. Making errors and masking information. But I was just talking about the blame game. "revealing" is probably the most misused word on head-fi.
What's a non colored headphone? A headphone that masks all recordings equally? There is certainly an aspect to detail retrieval related to driver capability independent of FR bias. If someone can't tell 128kb from 320kb (assuming a properly dynamic track) that phone/rig is masking and simply not accurate.
I just don't see how soundstage size relates to a concert. It's just small soundstage. Or the soundstage is projected behind you.
Quote from: rhythmdevils on January 18, 2013, 09:47:49 PMHow about the references to location in the audience that people frequently use? Can't remember the exact phrasing. But I often read people placing headphones in a very precise location in an audience. Like "the Grados man, I love them cause they put me ON the stage man, the ATH's are like 4 rows back, and the HD650 is just boring, it's way in the back of the concert hall and I just fall asleep". I'm always thinking ...."what?" What the hell does that mean? Maybe I haven't been to enough concerts or something I don't know, it just seems like BS to me. Interesting example, here's a translation:"the Grados man, I love them cause they put me ON the stage man"="the drivers are pressed right against my fucking ears""the ATH's are like 4 rows back"="holy fuck, the driver's further back and the pads are comfy. it's like, more spacious and engineered and shit""the HD650 is just boring, it's way in the back of the concert hall and I just fall asleep"="dude, where did the treble go?"(it's way too easy to translate pompous audiophile to stonerspeak)
How about the references to location in the audience that people frequently use? Can't remember the exact phrasing. But I often read people placing headphones in a very precise location in an audience. Like "the Grados man, I love them cause they put me ON the stage man, the ATH's are like 4 rows back, and the HD650 is just boring, it's way in the back of the concert hall and I just fall asleep". I'm always thinking ...."what?" What the hell does that mean? Maybe I haven't been to enough concerts or something I don't know, it just seems like BS to me.
Did a Beyer man just say that?
SE-5 is not it at all, it has some relatively small peaks in 3-5k range, a bass hump and a high end shelf, with peaks too. It definitely has a sound. So yes, the soundstaging is all over the place (w/o equalization) due to those features, like in SM3. Even with equalization, the weird gradation of thickness also plays a role, from thick, hard hitting bass to thin highs with some Ety-style "oversharp" ringing.
