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Elysian

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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #90 on: July 28, 2012, 09:23:49 PM »

I was actually just wondering about the 407 since it's substantively cheaper than the 507.  What's the difference between the two?  I read a few people on HF say the 507 is slightly better than the 407, but then other people say technically they are the same thing but with different cosmetics.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll reach out to Amos.
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #91 on: July 28, 2012, 09:57:46 PM »

They have the same drivers. Different pads though. That would cause the most significant difference I think. If you go to staxusa and take a look at the cost of the replacement 507 headband, thats where a lot of the cost went.
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #92 on: July 29, 2012, 05:36:14 PM »

Wow, that seems really expensive for a headband replacement assembly.  I think I read one or two people say their 507 headbands broke on them soon upon receipt, too.  If the drivers are the same, 407 seems to have much better bang-for-buck.
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #93 on: July 29, 2012, 05:49:55 PM »

Pads are critical for headphones though.  Better pads could make all the difference in the world. 
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #94 on: July 29, 2012, 06:20:59 PM »

Yes. And 507 pads are clearly better seal and comfort wise. You can get those from staxusa as well. Probably cheaper from ebay though.
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #95 on: July 29, 2012, 09:02:20 PM »

I haven't tried replacing pads yet, but I am curious to go between the velour and leather pads on the HE6s since a lot of people say there's an appreciable difference between the two.

I'll keep an eye out for used 407 and 507s and grab whichever pops up first for a decent price.  Aesthetically, I like the black on the 507s more, though I'm a bit concerned about reading one or two posts about breakage.  Kicking myself for not picking up a used 507 when a few were going cheap earlier this year during a slow spell.  People seem more interested in Lambdas recently.
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #96 on: July 30, 2012, 04:18:16 AM »

I haven't tried replacing pads yet, but I am curious to go between the velour and leather pads on the HE6s since a lot of people say there's an appreciable difference between the two.

My general impressions when I tried switching pads were that the pleathers made them sound a bit darker and with with more bass impact. The trade-off was that you get an even smaller soundstage, and the HE6's soundstage width isn't very good to begin with. With my preferred amp (a Bada PH32 speaker amp), the HE6 doesn't sound too bright at all even with velours so I immediately went back to the velours and use the hifiman pleathers on my modded Q40.

With the pleathers, I felt that the diminished soundstage was because the pads were too thin. I think if you can buy two sets of pleathers and stack them on top of each other (like what a lot of T50rp modders do), then you can get the slightly darker sounding sound without the soundstage tradeoffs.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2012, 04:24:35 AM by Sforza »
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #97 on: July 30, 2012, 04:24:30 AM »

That would significantly change the sound signature too though, not just increase SS.  Generally speaking, you'd get moar treble and less bass. 
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #98 on: July 30, 2012, 04:30:43 AM »

That would significantly change the sound signature too though, not just increase SS.  Generally speaking, you'd get moar treble and less bass.

Yeah that's probably true :( Now I'm thinking of those pad mods where you get slightly smaller pads for the T50, and then wrap bigger pads around them? I think the "bigger" pads were SRH840 pleathers on the T50.
Really should get Dyaems to talk about his modded T50RP, he's a member here.

Another thing I should compare is what's brighter between double stacked pleather pads and the stock velour ones, for the HE6.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2012, 04:34:48 AM by Sforza »
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Re: Treasure Maps
« Reply #99 on: July 30, 2012, 05:52:10 AM »

I might also try the dt250 velour pads to see what they do to the t50rp
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