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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2013, 08:30:23 PM »
Quote from: BlackenedPlague on February 28, 2013, 07:36:50 PM
Would love to hear the Graceland remaster.....  p:/

I always have it with me when I go to a meet.
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2013, 03:23:59 PM »
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Among 3 Release Graceland (Paul Simon): 1986, Reissued 2004, 25th Ann 2012.
Is it true that first one has better quality than the other?
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2013, 05:50:01 PM »
Quote from: SAY_stun_PLZ on March 04, 2013, 03:23:59 PM
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Among 3 Release Graceland (Paul Simon): 1986, Reissued 2004, 25th Ann 2012.
Is it true that first one has better quality than the other?

Yes. The first release has by far, the best, most natural sound compared to the others. The 2004 is compressed to crap but still sounds good - no distortion, no audible clipping. The 2012 issue is the same as the 2004.

Although my version is completely remastered and different sounding...it's most similar to the original 1986 version.  It's very dynamic and you actually need to turn the volume knob up to enjoy it.  :)
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2013, 09:13:31 PM »
LFF, have you got access to masters? or are you tweaking stereo copies?
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2013, 10:59:19 PM »
Quote from: Rabbit on March 04, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
LFF, have you got access to masters? or are you tweaking stereo copies?

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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2013, 12:56:08 AM »
LFF is the master , he records all his own stuff  :boom:
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2013, 06:32:15 PM »
Quote from: Rabbit on March 05, 2013, 06:29:57 PM
Quote from: LFF on March 04, 2013, 10:59:19 PM
Quote from: Rabbit on March 04, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
LFF, have you got access to masters? or are you tweaking stereo copies?

 p:/

I'm wondering if you've done any of my stuff!!!!  :-0

Anything would be an improvement on 80's CD's!!!  :)p2

You'd be surprised. A lot of those 80's CD's, with proper de-emphasis, sound VERY good.  :)
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #57 on: March 05, 2013, 07:11:38 PM »
Wow, ripping on pre-compression 80's CDs?  You should have some excellent DR on those.


Are your's originals or recent 'remasters'?
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2013, 07:30:33 PM »
Quote from: Analixus on March 05, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
Wow, ripping on pre-compression 80's CDs?  You should have some excellent DR on those.


Are your's originals or recent 'remasters'?

It's a common complaint Anax.

The 80's pressings lack body and most have too much top end - especially if not properly played back. While the dynamic range is fine, the EQ work/mastering tends to be abysmal.
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2013, 08:02:05 PM »
TBH, I wonder whether engineers had some problems moving from mastering for vinyl to mastering for digital.

There were all kinds of things done on masters if they were to be pressed onto vinyl along with the problems of having loud music at the end of side 1 or side 2. Distortion problems on LP's could be quite a problem. Plus the fact that they used compression quite freely sometimes in order to get the music way above the noise floor of LP's and a little bit of tweaking so that the final LP would print with a nice top end.

Transfer that thinking to digital produces all kinds of problems and I think early 80's recordings suffered with guys mixing with LP in mind and not CD.

Result was an uninvolving, squeaky clean rendering of something that sounded much better on vinyl and so many people stuck with (and still do) vinyl albums.

I heard one of the first Philips CD players and it was just awful. No clicks or pops, but tape hiss was astounding (ADD copies abounded) and lacking of guts was just unforgivable. Everyone seemed to be in denial about it!!
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