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timjthomas

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Reference Recordings / Test Tracks
« on: December 04, 2011, 11:31:11 AM »

What music do you use when "testing" a set of headphones?  This list is not to be confused with "perfect recordings".  These are tracks you use to test gear, which often means recordings which challenge transducers or upstream gear, or which have problem spots which can show you problems in gear/headphones.  Perfect recordings test certain aspects of gear, but will only show you so much.  Bad recordings can be just as useful for testing gear as great recordings. 

note:  Since this is a sticky, I have comandeered this part of this post to direct the thread.  Original post below. 

-RD




My list changes from time to time, but below is what I keep coming back to.  (I can post links or pictures to specific versions I have, if there is a need.)

Cowboy Junkies - Trinity Sessions / Trinity Sessions Revisited
Diana Krall - Live in Paris
Eric Clapton - Unplugged
Jim Hall - Concierto
Led Zeppelin - 4 Disk Box Set
LOTR - Fellowship of the Ring
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Pearl Jam - 10
Pink Floyd - DSOTM, Wish You Were Here, The Wall
Ray Charles - Genius Loves Company
Steely Dan - Gold
Tord Gustavsen Trio - The Ground
U2 - Achtung Baby (specifically Mysterious Ways)


As for classical, there are quite a few I use, but the main ones are:

Bach Cello Suites - Zuill Bailey
Bach Goldberg Variations - Murray Perahia
Brahms Violin Concerto - Anne-Sophie Mutter
Brahms Piano Concerto #2 - Fleisher & Szell
Tchaikovsky Violin Concertos - Hilary Hahn
 

Aside from the classical, I'm not sure how well all of the above are mastered.  I'm sure that the CJ's Trinity Sessions (in fact all of the CJ stuff) as well as Clapton's Unplugged are very well mastered.'

Any thoughts on how well these are mastered?

-Tim
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 06:44:39 PM »

Cowboy Junkies - Trinity Sessions / Trinity Sessions Revisited - Great
Diana Krall - Live in Paris - Awesome
Eric Clapton - Unplugged - Near Perfect
Jim Hall - Concierto - ?
Led Zeppelin - 4 Disk Box Set - Bad
LOTR - Fellowship of the Ring - OK
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - Depends which version
Pearl Jam - 10 - Bad
Pink Floyd - DSOTM, Wish You Were Here, The Wall - Depends which version
Ray Charles - Genius Loves Company - BAD
Steely Dan - Gold - depends which version
Tord Gustavsen Trio - The Ground - ?
U2 - Achtung Baby (specifically Mysterious Ways) - BAD


As for classical, there are quite a few I use, but the main ones are:

Bach Cello Suites - Zuill Bailey -?
Bach Goldberg Variations - Murray Perahia - OK
Brahms Violin Concerto - Anne-Sophie Mutter - OK
Brahms Piano Concerto #2 - Fleisher & Szell - OK
Tchaikovsky Violin Concertos - Hilary Hahn - ?

? = I haven't heard it.
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 12:22:52 AM »

Here's an article about Jim Hall - Concierto: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=38650
Tord Gustavsen Trio is minimalist jazz trio.  The Ground is probably their most "widely" known album.
I heard about Zuill Bailey's recording of Bach's Cello Suites on NPR.  I have several versions of the Bach Cello Suites -- some I like better -- but this is very well recorded.
Hahn's recording of Tchaikovsky Violin Concertos is almost "syrupy", but it seems to work (for me at least.)

I can provide samples of any of these if you'd like to give them a listen.

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Luis: I hadn't realized that you had commented on each of the recordings, noting that some were "BAD."

Led Zeppelin - 4 Disk Box Set - Bad - I much prefer the LPs I have of Zeppelin and usually listen to those.  I've been meaning to pick up a "good" version on CD.  Just not sure which ones to get.

Pearl Jam - 10 - Bad - I figured as much. I just like the raw emotion of the recording  :)

Ray Charles - Genius Loves Company - BAD - I've read this.  Are all of the tracks poor?  I'll have to listen more carefully to ths one.

U2 - Achtung Baby (specifically Mysterious Ways) - BAD.  Not surprising.  I like they Mysterious Ways.  It's a "fun song."

Pink Floyd & Miles Davis - I'll have to check which versions I have.  Do you have a particular recommendation?

Steel Dan - Gold - I have the expanded edition: http://www.amazon.com/Gold-Steely-Dan/dp/B000002OHR/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1323111435&sr=1-1


Thanks,

-Tim
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 01:22:27 PM »

So what single recording or two is your reference recording -- the one you use to evaluate headphones, speakers, etc.?  Why that recording?  What do you listen for?
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 04:13:35 PM »

Elton John - Bitter Fingers
John Mayer - Who Says
a recording I have of the Emperor Concerto (Beethoven's 5th piano concerto)
Sometime's recording's I made myself
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 03:49:25 PM »

So what single recording or two is your reference recording -- the one you use to evaluate headphones, speakers, etc.?  Why that recording?  What do you listen for?

Single song: Talking Heads - This Must Be The Place

Single Album: Paul Simon - Graceland

I listen for naturalness. If anything sounds too bright, too flabby, lacking, too shrill or too much glare then I know it is NOT the recording. Vocals should sound effortlessly natural. Both have a ton micro-detail that many speakers and headphones fail to reproduce properly. Graceland in particular has a lot of ambiance that is completely missing in a lot of systems.
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 10:00:33 PM »

I wish U2 made an effort to make good recording. Not a big U2 fan (LOL, my favorite U2 album is Zooropa) but still. Their records totally suck from a high-fidelity point of view, except for their very early ones.
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 10:19:23 PM »

Some of my usual go-to albums:

Patricia Barber - Modern Cool
Casandra Wilson - Traveling Miles
Kurt Elling - Nightmoves
San Francisco Symphony - Mahler Symphony No. 1, No. 2 or No. 5
Budapest Festival Orchestra - Tchaikovsky Symphony No. 4
Mariinsky Theater Orchestra - Rachmaninov Piano Concerto No. 3
Pieter Wispelwey - Tchaikovsky: Variation on Rococo Theme

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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 10:28:01 PM »

My list of "reference recordings" is really different from my list of recordings I use to test headphones.  Not sure which this is supposed to be but both are good ideas for threads.  Maybe we should clarify
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 10:35:53 PM »

i don't think i have any here to be honest. i just listen to music and know if something sounds off to me or not, but i guess you can say i always used Diana Krall - Live in Paris (2002) for testing overall naturalness in the midrange and sometimes i used lion king album for testing dynamics but that's bout it if that counts. overall though i don't really have much i guess you would consider. ''reference''. i just listen to tunes.
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