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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2013, 08:22:49 PM »

TBH, I wonder whether engineers had some problems moving from mastering for vinyl to mastering for digital.

There were all kinds of things done on masters if they were to be pressed onto vinyl along with the problems of having loud music at the end of side 1 or side 2. Distortion problems on LP's could be quite a problem. Plus the fact that they used compression quite freely sometimes in order to get the music way above the noise floor of LP's and a little bit of tweaking so that the final LP would print with a nice top end.

Transfer that thinking to digital produces all kinds of problems and I think early 80's recordings suffered with guys mixing with LP in mind and not CD.

Result was an uninvolving, squeaky clean rendering of something that sounded much better on vinyl and so many people stuck with (and still do) vinyl albums.

I heard one of the first Philips CD players and it was just awful. No clicks or pops, but tape hiss was astounding (ADD copies abounded) and lacking of guts was just unforgivable. Everyone seemed to be in denial about it!!

That's hitting the nail on the head.

They mostly all approached digital the wrong way.
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2013, 10:06:30 PM »

Wow, ripping on pre-compression 80's CDs?  You should have some excellent DR on those.


Are your's originals or recent 'remasters'?

It's a common complaint Anax.

The 80's pressings lack body and most have too much top end - especially if not properly played back. While the dynamic range is fine, the EQ work/mastering tends to be abysmal.


Yup.  I just thought it odd to single out 80's cds as an example of poor SQ.  It's like saying Stevie Nicks is ugly when you've got Susan Boyle out there.
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2013, 10:15:01 PM »

Wow, ripping on pre-compression 80's CDs?  You should have some excellent DR on those.


Are your's originals or recent 'remasters'?

It's a common complaint Anax.

The 80's pressings lack body and most have too much top end - especially if not properly played back. While the dynamic range is fine, the EQ work/mastering tends to be abysmal.


Yup.  I just thought it odd to single out 80's cds as an example of poor SQ.  It's like saying Stevie Nicks is ugly when you've got Susan Boyle out there.

LOL!  :)p13
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2013, 10:46:35 PM »

Wow, ripping on pre-compression 80's CDs?  You should have some excellent DR on those.


Are your's originals or recent 'remasters'?

It's a common complaint Anax.

The 80's pressings lack body and most have too much top end - especially if not properly played back. While the dynamic range is fine, the EQ work/mastering tends to be abysmal.


Yup.  I just thought it odd to single out 80's cds as an example of poor SQ.  It's like saying Stevie Nicks is ugly when you've got Susan Boyle out there.

I'm not sure it's just 80's CD's but the first attempts and transfers from A to D weren't always too stunning and were held up as examples of excellent recording quality.

You are right, Susan Boyle is terribly ugly though.  :gross:
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2013, 10:27:19 AM »

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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2013, 04:46:55 PM »

I like to use John Mayer - Who Says.

I'm interested in what LFF thinks about this recording?
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2013, 04:58:11 PM »

I like to use John Mayer - Who Says.

I'm interested in what LFF thinks about this recording?

I'll be honest...NEVER heard it.  :-\
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2013, 01:04:46 AM »

Waltz for Debby has quickly jumped to the top of my list for reference recordings lately. The piano and bass are just wonderful.

I'm getting more and more into Jazz lately (lots of good ol' Blue Note stuff) and I'm finding a ton of recordings that kick the piss out of a lot of my previous test tracks.
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2013, 02:18:25 PM »

Fleetwood Mac - Rumours

Vinyl, 1987 Cd, DVD-A
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Re: Reference Recordings
« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2013, 05:27:48 PM »

Waltz for Debby has quickly jumped to the top of my list for reference recordings lately. The piano and bass are just wonderful.

I'm getting more and more into Jazz lately (lots of good ol' Blue Note stuff) and I'm finding a ton of recordings that kick the piss out of a lot of my previous test tracks.

Only buy the ones done by Alan Yoshida or Ron McMaster. Avoid the Van Gelder editions like the plague.
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