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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2015, 04:11:32 PM »
Beyer has been known for some QC and variability when it comes to their Tesla line. I dont know if they've improved on that with the new version or not. But the pair that I heard was just terrible. Beyer will probably have their whole lineup during the next NY meet, so hopefully they'll have a burnt in pair there.

Koth, you're better off just getting a DT880 if you want to try a beyer. They're the most balanced out of the whole DT770/880/990 line. The DT770/pro 80 has some pretty decent bass but suffers from some treble brightness. The DT990/600 is actually fairly good as long as you're willing to EQ down the treble or roll it off with a high Z tube amp.
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2015, 04:51:26 PM »
Gunner good to know. I do have the ZD Super. Aren't there variants of the 880?
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2015, 07:45:43 PM »
According to Mike "everything is amazing"  Liang,  these are much improved
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2015, 08:06:01 PM »
Quote from: kothganesh on September 21, 2015, 04:51:26 PM
Gunner good to know. I do have the ZD Super. Aren't there variants of the 880?

Yup, they come in 32ohm, 250ohm, and 600ohm variants. I think the 600ohm variants tend to be the best sounding, especially with the dt880. I didn't have both at the same time to ever really compare. I think the 32ohm was measured before, and it had more ringing than the other variants. Plus, at 32 ohms, it doesn't play well with a lot of tube amps. There's little reason to get the 250ohm version now, especially since amps nowadays have no trouble driving 600ohms and the 600ohm version is currently only $30 more.

Here's Tyll's article about the dt880 variants:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2015, 03:13:14 PM »
Quote from: DrForBin on August 02, 2015, 07:21:58 PM
hello,

it would be nice if Beyerdynamic had a competitive flagship on the market. let's just hope it doesn't turn out like the K812.
Beyerdynamic does have THE most competitive product on the market. At the current price of about 800 USD T1 has represented the best value in electrodynamic headphones.
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2015, 03:21:42 PM »
Quote from: sszorin on September 23, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
Beyerdynamic does have THE most competitive product on the market. At the current price of about 800 USD T1 has represented the best value in electrodynamic headphones.

Are we both talking about the same t1? That was the second worst treble I've ever heard, after the dt990 250ohm.

Also there are many $300-$700 headphones I'd take over the t1 even if they were the same price. That treble is just disgusting
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2015, 03:24:40 PM »
Quote from: sszorin on September 23, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
Beyerdynamic does have THE most competitive product on the market. At the current price of about 800 USD T1 has represented the best value in electrodynamic headphones.


The T1 as a flagship isn't even as good as mid-tier headphones from other companies.
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2015, 03:26:33 PM »
Quote from: ultrabike on August 02, 2015, 07:44:12 PM
They need to fix the treble on those Beyers Zombie. It truly was messed up.
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"It truly was messed up" is too strong a description. T1's treble is mildly grating on badly mastered albums. On well mastered ones I hear no problems with the treble. The sound is smooth like butter. Try this album - http://impexrecords.com/Well45.html You can also buy this as a 24kt gold plated CD - http://impexrecords.com/WellGCD.html
T1 should really be used with tube/valve amplifier or at least with a hybrid one. The tubes take some of the tizzzz off and extra series of harmonic overtones also help with padding lean and fast tones of T1.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2015, 04:02:37 PM by sszorin »
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2015, 03:28:02 PM »
Quote from: sszorin on September 23, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
Beyerdynamic does have THE most competitive product on the market. At the current price of about 800 USD T1 has represented the best value in electrodynamic headphones.


How do you figure when you can get a DT880 or HD6xx for less than half the price?

Plus if you need a specific type of amp and specific records to keep from being irritated, I don't think that represents a 'value' proposition. Might as well get an HD800 and stop messing around at that point.
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Re: T1 Version 2
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2015, 03:34:44 PM »
Quote from: sszorin on September 23, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
Beyerdynamic does have THE most competitive product on the market. At the current price of about 800 USD T1 has represented the best value in electrodynamic headphones.


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