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Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« on: July 20, 2015, 09:48:56 PM »

Now that I've been living with the Jr daily for almost four months, I think it may be appropriate to post a review of it. Though this is my first review of any kind ever... Please be kind. Entirely subjective.

Note: I highly suspect my pair of UERM is an outlier: it's what I would regard as on the bassy side. The treble is not bright, but certainly revealing. 80% of listening is done with UERM, 10% with TH900, 10% with other stuff.

AK Jr firmware 1.02. updated.

Form factor, Hardware: I like it. It stays in my pocket nicely. Stack it with an ALO Rx and the whole bundle is still somehow not very bulky.

It does get a bit warm sometimes, but it's at most as warm as an iPhone 6 can get. Even in this abnormally hot Vancouver I don't feel this heat can be an issue.

UI, Software, Battery:

UI is similar to the AK100/120 II and pretty easy to get around with, albeit laggy - though I don't think the response of Sony ZX1 (that I previously owned) will best the Jr by a large margin if I don't disable all the Android functions and bloatware.

Battery can run on average four days given my usage is ~2 hours a day, at ~40 volume powering UERM directly. If I use the lineout to the Rx, the battery seems to last 2~3 days. Not bad at all.

Sound:

The Jr is better than everything I've heard, save the Calyx M which I recall as an entirely different approach of sound. I tried some cans than IEMs: Beo H6, AT M70x, and TH900; all were driven with enough volume and some sort of authority. I jokingly tried it with HE400S and certainly it's bad. My comfortable listening level with UERM is around 35~45 setting. No hissing at all is a good trait.

Overall sound signature is decently neutral if not a touch bright. Pretty balanced.

Plaknton performance in midrange is certainly above minimal expectations but still I can't say very satisfying. With UERM the very low bass and the very high treble are a bit unrefined. Bass can sound muddy and treble can sound cold and articifial/metallic/sterlie. I highly suspect this is because of the 2ohm output z of the Jr, since adding the Rx can mitigate a lot of the problems, making the Jr's sound satisfying refined and also bringning out a decent amount of low/high end information.

Now things get a bit complicated. The negatice things I will write below are not daily issues and does not affect my overall favor of the Jr, I nevertheless think it's necessarily to fully explain what I have encountered.

Here we go:

1. I highly recommend turning off the auto-refreshing library funtion. This function is completely unnecessary: it drains battery (at most one day), is extremely slow, and cannot be quitted. I don't even know how often it auto-refreshes, except I know if I left it on every time I wanted to use the Jr it was refreshing.

2. Funtioning as a USD DAC is no problem for PC and non-SSD Mac, but the dealer and I couldn't get the Jr work on our newer SSD MacBook Pro and Air. It was recognized, and the OS indeed was outputting through the Jr, yet no sound came out. We contacted AK to get the answer that it's because SSD Mac's USB 3.0 ports aren't compatible with Jr and the problem is not mitigatable. Pretty sad.

3. The physical buttons are occasionally irresponsive. I though this may be a hardware defect and my local dealer replaced it (and he confirmed the irresponsive problem); however the problem is reoccuring on my second (current) unit. I assume this is a firmware issue.

4. Also occasionally when first I turn on the line out function (not simply to max out the volume, but by selecting line out in the menu) to use the RX, then turn down the volume to listen directly, then turn off the Jr, the turned down volume will not be memorized. Once the Jr is turned on, the volume will be remembered as maxed out and my ear drums have suffered multiple times. Pirates be careful!

Verdict:
Given the current DAP market is hyper-inflating and every other manufacture has this and that kind of firmware/hardware/UI issues, the Jr is at least not outstandingly bad. With a comparatively outstanding sound and comparatively lower price, the Jr is a decent product.

Edit: 2015 July 22. To include observations by ohm-image:

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Of course, I'm measuring just with RMAA, not a proper audio analyser but I get the following results through a Lynx HILO:

Noise: -114,5 (averaged between three tests)
DR: 114,6 (averaged between three tests)
THD: 0,00365 (averaged between three tests)
IMD+noise: 0,010 (averaged between three tests)
CT: -113,15 (averaged between three tests)
FR: +0/-0 (averaged between three tests)
THD swept: +0/-0 (averaged between three tests)

Loaded it fares worse, but not badly considering.
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I'm a bit worried by the THD and IMD numbers, because they don't correspond across other devices that measured better than that earlier, but also now show about the same aberration. I'm tyring to find the culprit now, but as I said, I'm not using professional equipment meant for audio analysing.
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 10:44:24 PM »

What has your experience been using Bluetooth? I've had some issues with dropouts and dropped connections using it with a Noble BTS.
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2015, 11:07:39 PM »

What has your experience been using Bluetooth? I've had some issues with dropouts and dropped connections using it with a Noble BTS.

Unfortunately I tend to consider bluetooth (or wireless of any kind) a premium function for an absurd amount of money so I never use bluetooth.
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 04:27:25 AM »

I thought it was a bit bright too but if you're using UERM and not having issues I guess it can't be that bad. Thanks for the impressions. This looks like it might be the one. :money:
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 05:07:10 AM »

I thought it was a bit bright too but if you're using UERM and not having issues I guess it can't be that bad. Thanks for the impressions. This looks like it might be the one. :money:

Let me know if you want to borrow mine for an extended eval.
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 05:33:08 AM »

Thanks for the offer burns. Busy now but I'll let you know.
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2015, 01:22:35 AM »

Now that I've been living with the Jr daily for almost four months, I think it may be appropriate to post a review of it. Though this is my first review of any kind ever... Please be kind. Entirely subjective.

Note: I highly suspect my pair of UERM is an outlier: it's what I would regard as on the bassy side. The treble is not bright, but certainly revealing. 80% of listening is done with UERM, 10% with TH900, 10% with other stuff.

AK Jr firmware 1.02. updated.

Form factor, Hardware: I like it. It stays in my pocket nicely. Stack it with an ALO Rx and the whole bundle is still somehow not very bulky.

It does get a bit warm sometimes, but it's at most as warm as an iPhone 6 can get. Even in this abnormally hot Vancouver I don't feel this heat can be an issue.

UI, Software, Battery:

UI is similar to the AK100/120 II and pretty easy to get around with, albeit laggy - though I don't think the response of Sony ZX1 (that I previously owned) will best the Jr by a large margin if I don't disable all the Android functions and bloatware.

Battery can run on average four days given my usage is ~2 hours a day, at ~40 volume powering UERM directly. If I use the lineout to the Rx, the battery seems to last 2~3 days. Not bad at all.

Sound:

The Jr is better than everything I've heard, save the Calyx M which I recall as an entirely different approach of sound. I tried some cans than IEMs: Beo H6, AT M70x, and TH900; all were driven with enough volume and some sort of authority. I jokingly tried it with HE400S and certainly it's bad. My comfortable listening level with UERM is around 35~45 setting. No hissing at all is a good trait.

Overall sound signature is decently neutral if not a touch bright. Pretty balanced.

Plaknton performance in midrange is certainly above minimal expectations but still I can't say very satisfying. With UERM the very low bass and the very high treble are a bit unrefined. Bass can sound muddy and treble can sound cold and articifial/metallic/sterlie. I highly suspect this is because of the 2ohm output z of the Jr, since adding the Rx can mitigate a lot of the problems, making the Jr's sound satisfying refined and also bringning out a decent amount of low/high end information.

Now things get a bit complicated. The negatice things I will write below are not daily issues and does not affect my overall favor of the Jr, I nevertheless think it's necessarily to fully explain what I have encountered.

Here we go:

1. I highly recommend turning off the auto-refreshing library funtion. This function is completely unnecessary: it drains battery (at most one day), is extremely slow, and cannot be quitted. I don't even know how often it auto-refreshes, except I know if I left it on every time I wanted to use the Jr it was refreshing.

2. Funtioning as a USD DAC is no problem for PC and non-SSD Mac, but the dealer and I couldn't get the Jr work on our newer SSD MacBook Pro and Air. It was recognized, and the OS indeed was outputting through the Jr, yet no sound came out. We contacted AK to get the answer that it's because SSD Mac's USB 3.0 ports aren't compatible with Jr and the problem is not mitigatable. Pretty sad.

3. The physical buttons are occasionally irresponsive. I though this may be a hardware defect and my local dealer replaced it (and he confirmed the irresponsive problem); however the problem is reoccuring on my second (current) unit. I assume this is a firmware issue.

4. Also occasionally when first I turn on the line out function (not simply to max out the volume, but by selecting line ou t in the menu) to use the RX, then turn down the volume to listen directly, then turn off the Jr, the turned down volume will not be memorized. Once the Jr is turned on, the volume will be remembered as maxed out and my ear drums have suffered multiple times. Pirates be careful!

Verdict:
Given the current DAP market is hyper-inflating and every other manufacture has this and that kind of firmware/hardware/UI issues, the Jr is at least not outstandingly bad. With a comparatively outstanding sound and comparatively lower price, the Jr is a decent product.

And the Jr drives low ohm headphones very well indeed. Better yet, its unloaded dynamic range, noise levels, and stereo crosstalk are better than the AK240. Of course, I'm measuring just with RMAA, not a proper audio analyser but I get the following results through a Lynx HILO:

Noise: -114,5 (averaged between three tests)
DR: 114,6 (averaged between three tests)
THD: 0,00365 (averaged between three tests)
IMD+noise: 0,010 (averaged between three tests)
CT: -113,15 (averaged between three tests)
FR: +0/-0 (averaged between three tests)
THD swept: +0/-0 (averaged between three tests)

Loaded it fares worse, but not badly considering. What I dislike about it is its obviously poor screen, its length, hard edges, and awkwardly-angled volume touch input.

Otherwise, I think it is AK's most usable and nearly best performing DAP to date.
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2015, 02:27:16 AM »

And the Jr drives low ohm headphones very well indeed. Better yet, its unloaded dynamic range, noise levels, and stereo crosstalk are better than the AK240. Of course, I'm measuring just with RMAA, not a proper audio analyser but I get the following results through a Lynx HILO:

Noise: -114,5 (averaged between three tests)
DR: 114,6 (averaged between three tests)
THD: 0,00365 (averaged between three tests)
IMD+noise: 0,010 (averaged between three tests)
CT: -113,15 (averaged between three tests)
FR: +0/-0 (averaged between three tests)
THD swept: +0/-0 (averaged between three tests)

Loaded it fares worse, but not badly considering. What I dislike about it is its obviously poor screen, its length, hard edges, and awkwardly-angled volume touch input.

Otherwise, I think it is AK's most usable and nearly best performing DAP to date.

Wow, thank you for the measurements! Would you mind if I include your results into my original post, credited to you?

If I recall correctly, my previous Sony ZX1 has an output z of ~3 and a S/N of 94, which means on UERM, ZX1 is fucking beaten to death by Jr. Jr clearly has more volume range and can drive some slightly inefficient portable cans (i.e. Beo H6) with far better authority than ZX1. Just looking at the specs posted, I was almost sure ZX1 stands no chance against Jr. Yet I strongly suspect the muddy low end I'm expereincing is a result of UERM's wonky z response and Jr's 2 output z. The low end problem is not very prominent on TH900 and N4.

I tend to agree with your comments: screen is crap (so the slow touch response), edges are too sharp, but these are quite minor issues for me. It's not like the sharp edges hurt me, so I'm good with that. Volume touch input is awesome to me tho.

OTOH, my expreience with the original AK120 was very bad (using SE535 at that time). The sound sig of AK100ii was somewhere in between Sony ZX1 and Calyx M, neither lean enough nor thick enough. A disappointment for the price. Even if the 120ii or 240 or 380 were good, I'm not carrying 1500 USD+ DAP and 1000 USD CIEMs around - that's more money than a car. If I have the extra $1000 (the difference between Jr and 120ii), I'd rather get some air tickets to visit my friends.
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2015, 02:47:37 AM »

Wow, thank you for the measurements! Would you mind if I include your results into my original post, credited to you?

If I recall correctly, my previous Sony ZX1 has an output z of ~3 and a S/N of 94, which means on UERM, ZX1 is fucking beaten to death by Jr. Jr clearly has more volume range and can drive some slightly inefficient portable cans (i.e. Beo H6) with far better authority than ZX1. Just looking at the specs posted, I was almost sure ZX1 stands no chance against Jr. Yet I strongly suspect the muddy low end I'm expereincing is a result of UERM's wonky z response and Jr's 2 output z. The low end problem is not very prominent on TH900 and N4.

I tend to agree with your comments: screen is crap (so the slow touch response), edges are too sharp, but these are quite minor issues for me. It's not like the sharp edges hurt me, so I'm good with that. Volume touch input is awesome to me tho.

OTOH, my expreience with the original AK120 was very bad (using SE535 at that time). The sound sig of AK100ii was somewhere in between Sony ZX1 and Calyx M, neither lean enough nor thick enough. A disappointment for the price. Even if the 120ii or 240 or 380 were good, I'm not carrying 1500 USD+ DAP and 1000 USD CIEMs around - that's more money than a car. If I have the extra $1000 (the difference between Jr and 120ii), I'd rather get some air tickets to visit my friends.

By all means quote me if you want. I'm a bit worried by the THD and IMD numbers, because they don't correspond across other devices that measured better than that earlier, but also now show about the same aberration. I'm tyring to find the culprit now, but as I said, I'm not using professional equipment meant for audio analysing.

That is what has kept me from publishing this information in the DATA section of ohm image: http://ohm-image.net/data/audio/

EDIT:
I need to add: that AK JR runs low ohm loads to 95% stability at volumes of 70-73. At 75, its THD and IMD jump up by nearly 100x. I'm still trying to find the most stable maximum volume for the device. Suffice it to say: at normal listening levels, IMD won't be a problem, but most incredible measurements also take a total dive at normal listening levels, which isn't completely normal. An iPhone will be more stable at all volume levels, but never crack the 110dB DR that the JR can.
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Re: Astell & Kern Jr. Review
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2015, 06:01:11 AM »

EDIT:
I need to add: that AK JR runs low ohm loads to 95% stability at volumes of 70-73. At 75, its THD and IMD jump up by nearly 100x. I'm still trying to find the most stable maximum volume for the device. Suffice it to say: at normal listening levels, IMD won't be a problem, but most incredible measurements also take a total dive at normal listening levels, which isn't completely normal. An iPhone will be more stable at all volume levels, but never crack the 110dB DR that the JR can.

Wait a minute - what you're saying is that at line-out configuration (turning on line-out/just set volume straight at 75 are the same thing for me) IMD jumps by 100 fold? I think I've done some serious listening at 75 feeding amps and no major issues have happened. I'll confirm tomorrow.
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