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Author Topic: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.  (Read 55399 times)

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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #350 on: August 25, 2015, 08:07:02 PM »

Perhaps how there are R2R fans, there are Delta/Sigma lovers?

Many S-D dacs I have heard produce artefacts that can perhaps make some simple music more interesting. Yulong DA8 was best example in my possession.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #351 on: August 25, 2015, 08:11:52 PM »

Yes, I used a Dangerous Source for many months.  Beats the Benchmark Dac 1 easily to my ears.  I like it better than lots of under $750 or so dacs and prefer it to the Eastern Electric Minimax, Zdac, Blue Circle and others.  Moving on up to something over $1k though and it gets outclassed if you select the right dac. 

Headphone section is just okay and a bit better than the dac 1.  Not quite up to the standards of most good solid separate HP amps, though.


Thanks very much. Any thoughts on what would be a good upgrade DAC and amp for the UERM specifically (no need for it to be portable)? A fairly compact unit would be good, as would pre-outs on the DAC or amp so I can use speakers too. Similar to the Source's features, I suppose, although I don't mind separates. Not looking to spend too much at this stage.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #352 on: August 26, 2015, 06:46:07 AM »

Where does the multibit Gungnir sit on the charts? Is that the redacted?
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #353 on: August 26, 2015, 06:53:40 AM »

... yes
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #354 on: August 26, 2015, 02:31:26 PM »

Thanks very much. Any thoughts on what would be a good upgrade DAC and amp for the UERM specifically (no need for it to be portable)? A fairly compact unit would be good, as would pre-outs on the DAC or amp so I can use speakers too. Similar to the Source's features, I suppose, although I don't mind separates. Not looking to spend too much at this stage.

Afraid, I am not going to be much help since I have not heard the uerm.  The Schiit Asgard2, and Lyr2 are both really fine sounding amps for the money.  As for dacs, depends on total budget I suppose.  X-Sabre, MB Gungnir both come to mind for mid priced.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #355 on: August 28, 2015, 12:00:28 AM »

on the topic of audiophilia nervosa:

If you have ample time(maybe during drive to work, jogging etc), do listen to these presentation. Really practical and potentially money saving(audiophile wise) advice/tips from him.

e.g. at 31m:32sec of the RMAF13 video, he recommends you to set aside time to listen live music, so that you can judge your home audio equipment's sound quality better.



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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #356 on: August 28, 2015, 11:58:08 AM »

How many of you are unable/unwilling to use delta-sigma DACs once you own an R2R DAC?

I'll be getting a GMB, and I'm wondering how I'll find using the M-DAC + Valhalla 2 + HD650 combo as my secondary rig.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #357 on: August 28, 2015, 01:24:29 PM »

Well designed R2r dac does less evil than well designed sigma delta dac.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #358 on: August 28, 2015, 01:37:44 PM »

How many of you are unable/unwilling to use delta-sigma DACs once you own an R2R DAC?

I'll be getting a GMB, and I'm wondering how I'll find using the M-DAC + Valhalla 2 + HD650 combo as my secondary rig.

The next DACs I will buy will probably be R2R, however I still enjoy my NFB-1DAC with my LS50 and PM-2. Not so with my HD800 though.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #359 on: August 28, 2015, 03:47:19 PM »

How many of you are unable/unwilling to use delta-sigma DACs once you own an R2R DAC?

I'll be getting a GMB, and I'm wondering how I'll find using the M-DAC + Valhalla 2 + HD650 combo as my secondary rig.

I have a gumby en route, so I can't comment directly until next week, but nearly everyone here I can think of that has (or has experienced) a good R/2R dac (Yggy, gumby, theta data, transdac, etc), also has (or is soon to have, or has listened to and commented favorably on) a Geek Out V2 (whatever iteration). Since the GOV2 uses d/s sabre chip, I can only guess the answer is "no one". Like balanced / SE amps, its mostly about implementation than dac type. I am not suggesting specific performance comparison; I just highly doubt that listening to good/great R/2R will make all d/s unlistenable.
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