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Author Topic: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.  (Read 55399 times)

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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #400 on: September 15, 2015, 05:26:49 AM »
Quote from: BassDigger on September 15, 2015, 05:06:12 AM
Fiio E5 amp? WTF is that?  p:8

Hey! That was my first portable amp. I have it at the bottom of a box somewhere still. I also listened to the DACPort with the HD800 for 7 months while my Super7 was getting built. Although I could only manage about 20 minutes total headtime with it during that entire period.

I don't think he's going to do all that you fear. He just needs to get by in the meantime. I've been there too many moons ago.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #401 on: September 15, 2015, 06:04:16 AM »
The e5 was my first amp. I was supremely underwhelmed. I had the Grado SR80 at the time and felt like it was better coming straight out of my Fuze. Of course, I was a bit excited when I "discovered" the hidden boost setting all on my own.
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Not sure if I like stuffing one hole or both holes. Tending toward one hole since both holes seems kinda ghey ~Purrin

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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #402 on: September 15, 2015, 06:07:35 AM »
Quote from: Armaegis on September 15, 2015, 06:04:16 AM
The e5 was my first amp. I was supremely underwhelmed. I had the Grado SR80 at the time and felt like it was better coming straight out of my Fuze. Of course, I was a bit excited when I "discovered" the hidden boost setting all on my own.

I don't think I had a Sansa yet in my repertoire. I think I was going straight from an ipod nano.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #403 on: September 15, 2015, 07:26:55 AM »
Quote from: BassDigger on September 15, 2015, 05:06:12 AM
Fiio E5 amp? WTF is that?  p:8

So, you're gonna be selling some stuff (that you've probably quite recently bought?) and then using this 'thing' to connect a good (maybe great) dac to what are possibly the most revealing transducers on the planet?!?

Are you going to be doing some assessments and making final judgements, on the Gumby and hd800, whilst using the Fiio?  :-00
Or are you just winding us up?

Nope, going to be broke after buying the multibit Gungnir right after I just bought the Sennheiser HD800. Nearly 3 grand in the hole.

Going to have to do without a decent amp until next year.

Just wondering, but is there any way to plug the headphone directly to the DAC
Maybe something like this http://i.imgur.com/dlGfBTJ.jpg into the RCA outputs of the Gungnir & then using USB inputs to my PC?

Does that even make sense?
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #404 on: September 15, 2015, 07:35:23 AM »
Sorry; I didn't really mean to beat up on ya!





 p:0
An adaptor cable, instead of an amplifier?!? That really is desperation!!  facepalm
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #405 on: September 15, 2015, 08:49:24 AM »
Quote from: BassDigger on September 15, 2015, 07:35:23 AM
Sorry; I didn't really mean to beat up on ya!
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An adaptor cable, instead of an amplifier?!? That really is desperation!!  facepalm

Yup, until I secure more funds, no amp. :'(

Besides that, I would still like to test out just the DAC for a few weeks at least. See how much improvement it will be without an amp & when I do get the higher end amp down the line, I can see which makes a bigger difference to my ears.

I never got a straight answer form anyone when I asked which would make the biggest change or improvement to a HD800, amp or DAC.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #406 on: September 15, 2015, 09:39:54 AM »
Since you already have the headphone, wouldn't it be better to buy the amp next? Then, get the Gumby next year when you have the funds. Headphones >= Amp > DAC

From all I read, the HD800 are considered "difficult" headphones and needs a good amp to run well. I'm guessing you have computer doing DAC duty already or are your running off a phone or some other portable source? I tried my HE560s straight to my PC's soundcard and had problems getting up to a suitable volume. I still have an old receiver (RCA only) so I'm temporary going 3.5 mm to RCA until Liquid Carbon ships.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #407 on: September 15, 2015, 10:06:21 AM »
Quote from: Thenewdude007 on September 15, 2015, 07:26:55 AM
Just wondering, but is there any way to plug the headphone directly to the DAC

That isn't actually awful idea. I tried HD800 out of Yggy SE output.
Not great, but beats the crap out of anything commercial I have personally used as an amp under 500$, and the dac goodness is still 70% available.

Imo, dac matters nearly as much for HD800 as amp.
The bottleneck thing, or water flow analogy is valid here :) 
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #408 on: September 15, 2015, 03:21:02 PM »
Yeah, unless your current DAC is absolutely horrid, I'd start with the amp first.
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Re: Purrin's DAC Chart of Awesomeness.
« Reply #409 on: September 15, 2015, 05:04:15 PM »
Quote from: Xen on September 15, 2015, 09:39:54 AM
Headphones >= Amp > DAC

Quote from: Hands on September 15, 2015, 03:21:02 PM
Yeah, unless your current DAC is absolutely horrid, I'd start with the amp first.

That's what I always thought, but in the HD800 case, it is supposed to be the most revealing headphone ever made. So any imperfections through the DAC are magnified. Going straight the the top rated multibit Gungnir should improve the sound significantly?

I been using the DAC from my PC & from my iFi Micro iDSD. I guess both are bright/digital sounding and they aren't doing the HD800 any favors.
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