Nah, the Clip+ is warmer but had less weight/dynamics and worse imaging and soundstage than the ODAC IME.

Yeah that's what I was saying. Sorry if I was confusing, Clip+ is noticeably warmer with stronger bass but a smaller soundstage. The soundstage is a lot nicer on the odac but sounds emotionally un-involving  as a whole compared to the clip+.

One can go on and on failing in this route. The puny little Clip+ is IMO better than even some 1k$ dacs.
The resolution isn't nothing to write home about, but the tone and fullness is pretty good.

Yeah I definitely don't want to go down that road considering I was barely able to afford the odac. I think i'm just looking for something that's warmer and has bass than the odac. That's why I asked if the geek out v2 was better since it's on the warmer side of the chart and A LOT of people seem to like it.

PC>ODAC>Gustard H10> A151 vs Sansa clip+> A151

Can you compare the Sansa into the Gustard to rule that out? Might want to try playing with some settings on your PC side too, there might be room for improvement in your software side of things.

I don't think that the DAC IC changed.  It's still a sabre.  I believe it is the USB interface chip that changed.

They changed the dac chip too, although not advertised on the product page.  If you look at JDS blog entry and the change log section, they do disclose the change to PCM5102A, with SA9023 for usb.  There is also an oblique reference to the failure rate on the sabre chips. http://blog.jdslabs.com/?p=1003