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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #100 on: November 08, 2013, 06:54:49 PM »

My internet skills are weak, because they lack a true foundation in the spirit of kung-fu.

Where is Rin's review of the xba-h3?

Also, I think MF has these?
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #101 on: November 08, 2013, 07:26:28 PM »

To be perfectly honest, I don't really care what Rin Choi thinks about this or that. Especially as I've never come across his talking about sound in the actual context of music. I find his discussions of all this stuff to be quite soul sapping, personally.

I'm rather indifferent toward the EX600 and EX1000, but I like the EX800ST. I also like the H3, but only when it's modded to remove the ridiculous bass Sony felt necessary to tune it to have.

The Ocharaku connection is definitely there, since it's the ex-employee responsible for the [awful] PFV-1. Really though the "Sony spirit" in this case is an antagonistic one, the one that haunted the EX700SL that I loved so much for some reason, and one that will definitely not be some peoples' cup of tea. I've been listening to their newest invention, the Donguri, which is designed to look like a pair of acorns you shove into your earholes. It even comes with a wooden acorn pendant crafted by Oak Village in their ongoing partnership with the tea house. I was especially moved when I discovered that the housings of the Donguri were made from zelkova, the same wood used on the cups of the Sony R10. Overall the Donguri has a much more natural type of sound, somewhat removed from the wholly unnatural Flat4 (or EX700SL). They're definitely carrying to torch of Sony's madder, more adventurous and inventive side these days. However their ethos is wholly different to my mind. More one of reverence for the world at large rather than a burning desire to dominate and conquer it.

I know it's en vogue and even fun to be cynical about stuff, but personally I think the portable market is in a much better state than it was a few years ago, especially compared to the full-sized headphone landscape. $100 today will get you a lot more in an in-ear monitor than it would have before, and there's just a much wider variety of different flavors and subtle variations that exist in the comparatively young in-ear market. For instance I've been trying to decide between several "neutral-ish" CIEMs like the L05QD, UERM, 4C, and NT6. After hearing them (save for the NT6), I was rather impressed by how competently tuned they were, especially compared to the world of headphones where you just don't see that sort of thing. If anything, the world of CIEMs and manufacturers pooling from the same sources reminds me more of the hobbyist speaker niche en miniature.

As for crossovers, it really depends. Sometimes they aren't executed particularly well. Other times a crossoverless design can work well, as in the case of Custom Art's dual driver model. It's all about implementation.
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #102 on: November 08, 2013, 07:44:47 PM »

Really?  The CK10 sounds like watching a 3D movie w/o glasses??  It sounds more coherent than most triple drivers w/ crossovers I've ever heard.

Too much gross oversimplification in some of those claims for me.
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #103 on: November 08, 2013, 09:04:33 PM »

The ck10 is a dual BA no-crossover design, too.

MF, could you describe the treble, mids and bass of the xba-H3 with the vent blocked? I think you said it was better for you than the ex-1000 and that makes me interested as I liked the EX-1000 (with some tuning changes).

Does the h3's dynamic blend well with the BAs? How is the detail? Sorry to ask, just that inquiring minds want to know and all.
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #104 on: November 09, 2013, 03:13:13 AM »

Really?  The CK10 sounds like watching a 3D movie w/o glasses??  It sounds more coherent than most triple drivers w/ crossovers I've ever heard.

Too much gross oversimplification in some of those claims for me.

The ck10 is a dual BA no-crossover design, too.

There is definitely an extra piece of circuitry inside the CK10, a green board like this http://www.colsanmicro.com/components/driver-assemblies/

At you two and MF yes okay there are 'natural' crossover designs too, like tweeters which naturally start at very high frequencies and so forth.

I don't have any evidence crossover overlap causes distress, but I'm sure there's a few which have experimented turning the "active" part in their active speakers on and off which will yield noteworthy differences.

The fact crossovers aren't measured very much doesn't really help either, you can block individual bores in a CIEM though, which I hope some CIEM designers do in the assembly and measurement stage.

would have thought rin would fit right in here. music takes a back seat to measurements and technical performance from what i'm seeing.

You can have a look at the "discovery thread" on head-fi if you want by Dsnuts, they mostly talk about music and IEM discoveries, a lot of them like the ATH-CKS1000 which measures like this http://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&no=322 if you're interested.  I think it sounds quite fun, now and then.

Ok leaving thread ciao.
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2015, 02:08:50 AM »

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