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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #90 on: November 07, 2013, 10:26:40 PM »

/ no way i would have bought them for the sound. ;)

In a blind test versus Etymotic ER-4B, Ortofon E-Q7 and a UM Mage I'd think it's rather unlikely actually.

you're referring to yourself here right? ;)
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #91 on: November 07, 2013, 10:28:23 PM »

Tbh I wanted to buy the T-Peos when I demoed it in a store here in Asia, but the shopkeeper said it was his friends, he really liked it too btw, he's an Audio Technica headphone guy, so not far from Muppet.  When I saw the negative comments at h-f I figured they break too easily, anyway it's just a fresh and novel sound, something similar to the Final Audio VI unit, or an ER-4 with sub-bass and tizziness, speaking in FR here, pretty far from what everyone else is saying.  Rin's review of the T-Peos 200 suggests the company was smoking crack and tuning each IEM differently.  My new ATH-CK10 also sounds a bit diff than my previous one, yeah I know long term sonic memory is not held in esteem but I noticed it has a white filter in the nozz instead of blue.

Point in case to all audio companies lurking here, don't change IEM's without say so, and include FR graphs like the ER-4PT has, that cost $200 a piece, it's not difficult.  Also include a note FR is only a piece in the puzzle but needed for QC and uniformity.  I don't know why anyone would want the PT instead of S or B and the "horn" shape of the Shure Olive exit actually makes it sound better than all Ety tips so they were smoking smt as well... /opinion

The E-Q7 is unusually dark tilted, but that can be fixed with extra impedance adaptors as Sonove found, the nice part is that Yashima driver though, with any impedance applied it's quite special, really need to review it.

"Now in 2013/2014 expensive shit"

It means IEM's are clearly way better than Dr. Dre now, which cost less, and soon we'll see review comments "This $500 IEM sounds like $2000!!  Amazing!!"

Back in the day I thought it was a joke the FI-BA-SS cost as much as my several hundred kilo Kawasaki, which isn't only soldering a piece of wire to a driver inside a two conic shaped pieces of steel, but after a while it's normal and you pay anything to get that upper echelon feeling or whatever.

Still I refuse to accept that DAC's should be in the multi thousands considering how serene some of the sub-$500 DIY are which I can't imagine improve very much.
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #92 on: November 07, 2013, 10:37:14 PM »

/ no way i would have bought them for the sound. ;)

In a blind test versus Etymotic ER-4B, Ortofon E-Q7 and a UM Mage I'd think it's rather unlikely actually.

you're referring to yourself here right? ;)

Ok you win they did a blind test with 500 high school students and 1 Dachshound and they all chose K3003.
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2013, 12:07:19 AM »

Kiteki, is there a sonic v7007 review you can point me to?

Is there a relationship with the akg3003 or are you just saying they sound similar (assuming you've heard them both)?

I haven't been following vsonic, I just saw they had some dynamics in the pipe.
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« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2013, 12:43:03 AM »

/ no way i would have bought them for the sound. ;)

In a blind test versus Etymotic ER-4B, Ortofon E-Q7 and a UM Mage I'd think it's rather unlikely actually.

you're referring to yourself here right? ;)

Ok you win they did a blind test with 500 high school students and 1 Dachshound and they all chose K3003.

winning feels good. the test subjects have impeccable taste. who's a good boy?
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2013, 03:10:54 AM »

Kiteki, is there a sonic v7007 review you can point me to?

Is there a relationship with the akg3003 or are you just saying they sound similar (assuming you've heard them both)?

I haven't been following vsonic, I just saw they had some dynamics in the pipe.

It's a clone of the K3003 as the name implies http://headphoniaks.com/blog/eng-confidential-vsonic-interview-part-ii/

When Astrotec released a clone of the V7007 there was a flamewar, I remember Vsonic saying something like they'll prove how good Chinese technology is, which seemed like an out of place comment surrounding an Austrian invention with an American driver inside?

T-Peos H200 is a K3003 clone as well, however it looks iffy.  Tomscy has experience with the Astrotec and K3003.

In principle I don't approve of clones, but if they're virtually identical at 20% of the price then at least it's a reality check and I think audio should be like Linux / Firefox afterall, not royalistic.
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2013, 04:23:42 AM »

Thanks. When is the V7007 coming out? Looks like people have been talking about it since 2012...
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« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2013, 10:44:16 AM »

The v7007 may never come out if Astrotec's Chinese patent on the AX60 is true.
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Re: AKG IEM K3003 Comprehensive Review
« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2013, 05:50:46 PM »

Hmm, tomscy's saying that the ax60 has a slow bass that doesn't keep up with the BAs... not promising.

I'd like to hear the Sony xba-H3. Also, I wonder when Dale will get the new version of the ASG-2 out?
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« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2013, 06:34:37 PM »

I haven't heard it, but if the XBA-H3 isn't using a crossover like the rest of their multi-drivers, it'll sound just as weak as every single Sony product has since the release of the EX600 / EX800ST / EX1000.  No crossover is like watching a 3D movie without the glasses.

http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/201309/13-0905D/images/img_002.png

JH16 / K3003 no time alignment, Sony no crossovers, JVC all V-shaped FR, Vsonic GR07 no upper treble.

Rin Choi seconds my view, he doesn't measure crossovers or time alignment, but he thinks the recent Sony headphones are worse than those from the 1990's.

Ocharaku Kuro looks like the only product still around still continuing the Sony spirit, the rest are all marketing. /opinion
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