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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #410 on: September 01, 2015, 09:09:26 AM »


everything and anything really, the only thing i dont really like the 650s with is edm or hiphop/rap/rnb, since the bass is well, mid-fi

I'm probably just in the honeymoon phase and will revert back to my hd800s eventually as my daily driver

im getting my iggy/rggy tomorrow from schiit. Am interested to test the 650 on the rok.


two more thing on my checklist are:

an eddie current tube amp
a planar can with visceral punchy bass,  most likely will grab the he-6 since the rok can drive them phenomenally

my setup will be

computer>6 jitter bugs(one for every usb port)>geeklps4>lightspeed10g cable>schiit wyrd>uptone audio regen>.....




Jkjk

computer>wyrd>iggy>rggy>650/800 (balanced with modded stock cables) interconnects just standard snake oil free canare cable with  neutrick xlr connectors and monoprice usb 2.0 cables

also will be using the kef ls50s and some old Yamaha studio monitors hooked up to the rag

pretty good reference rig, I think. Again Id like to add a EC tube amp and an He-6 for it to be complete



portable rig is pretty crap right now

fiio x3ii (terrible) > dununnununununu2000j/UERM

I just got a cayin n5 in today, I will probably right a review on it if its good, if not, I likely wont bother. It is a very interesting little DAP though.




Can the Rag drive HE-6 phenomenally?
Ive heard something else, atleast on Head-fi...
I got HE-6 myself, and im going to try with them a Hegel H80 integrated amplifier.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #411 on: September 01, 2015, 03:03:18 PM »

Rag has no problem driving HE-6. But hard to say if you will like the sound or not. Some people like it. Some people don't.

There was a mid-line Krell much lauded by the HF crowd for HE-6. It sounded like shit. That Krell made a bunch of farts with the HE-6 in the bass on a Daft Punk album and was bested by a 3 watt tube amp during the same listening session.

A passive preamp into a Pass amp might be the phenomenal setup you are looking for. It's all relative, based on personal preferences, and how much you want to spend.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #412 on: September 01, 2015, 03:40:11 PM »

Rag has no problem driving HE-6. But hard to say if you will like the sound or not. Some people like it. Some people don't.

There was a mid-line Krell much lauded by the HF crowd for HE-6. It sounded like shit. That Krell made a bunch of farts with the HE-6 in the bass on a Daft Punk album and was bested by a 3 watt tube amp during the same listening session.

A passive preamp into a Pass amp might be the phenomenal setup you are looking for. It's all relative, based on personal preferences, and how much you want to spend.

What amps do you recommend for the HE-6?
I found them just a tad too bright sounding with my Mjolnir.
I've been looking for an amp for a week now. First Watt has a M2, but then I need a preamp.
My budget is around 2-2,5k.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #413 on: September 01, 2015, 04:20:59 PM »

OK, decided to learn how to re-terminate cable (I can get soldering help at the office) so I ordered a Sennheiser replacement cable off Amazon Canada for $32 (good deal!).

Problem is I'm having a super pain in the ass time finding a place to get the Neutrik connector.  Probably going to end up paying $20USD for the damn connector after shipping...   >:(  (not a good deal)
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #414 on: September 01, 2015, 05:07:49 PM »

OK, decided to learn how to re-terminate cable (I can get soldering help at the office) so I ordered a Sennheiser replacement cable off Amazon Canada for $32 (good deal!).

Problem is I'm having a super pain in the ass time finding a place to get the Neutrik connector.  Probably going to end up paying $20USD for the damn connector after shipping...   >:(  (not a good deal)

Got my gold 4 pin Neutrik male XLR from Markertek for $5/free shipping (no minumum order to get free shipping). Worth checking to see if they'll ship to Canada.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #415 on: September 01, 2015, 05:13:51 PM »

Got the XLRs off Markertek as well.

NC4MXX-B
NC4FX-B

Male to reterminate the HD650 in XLR, female to take the old TRS and make an adapter.

I'm sending them to The Ghost Himself on Etsy along with my HD650 cable because I don't want to deal with soldering.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #416 on: September 01, 2015, 05:21:19 PM »

$16.75 USD shipping from Markertek to Canada for a single unit.  (not surprised, almost certain they would lose money otherwise)

I think I found a shop in Ontario that sells them and does free shipping on a $99 order so I will probably order some extra stuff.  (Been eyeing a pair of isoacoustics stands for my monitors)
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #417 on: September 04, 2015, 07:02:13 PM »

Hi guys,

First post here, i've read all thread and decided to buy HD650 (previous cans not by order: portapros, Grado sr80i, Fidelio x1, HD598, V-Moda M100, Beats Solo 2) and Fidelio X2. I've had my HD650 (w/ shiit modi 2 magni 2) for three weeks now, and got X2's just a few days ago.

And i like X2's more.

I'm not an audiophile by any sort of definition, i just like listening to music. To me, the biggest difference is bass and probably the soundstage if i understand the term correctly. HD650 feels very.. narrow? It's like the music is very close to ears (obviously not closed-cans close), but at the same time very distant if that makes sense? It's right HERE, but not really. Very strange sound. And it becomes even more apparent when i put on X2's. They sound really wide, i can't even tell where the sound is coming from, because it feels like sound originates somewhere outside the cups. The bass is superior, it had more punch where it needed. Also, X2's draws you into music, while HD650 produced music disappears. It's not engaging.

The only thing i don't understand is why i hear background hiss with X2's while HD650 keeps it clean.

What should i do changstar? I don't want to choose the wrong one, and i took HD650 to leave the mid-fi purgatory. But it seems X2's sound better for me. Thank you.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #418 on: September 04, 2015, 07:10:18 PM »


You shouldn't be using high gain on the X2 because they're very low impedance. Do you have the switch on the Magni 2 flipped for high gain (rear switch)? The 600 might need it, but the X2 definitely shouldn't use it.
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Re: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.
« Reply #419 on: September 04, 2015, 07:25:22 PM »

Based on specs, the X2 may have more bass than the HD650. But not necessarily higher quality.

If you are using high gain like Luckbad said, it is possible that you amp is in high impedance mode (not sure what the output impedance of the Magni 2 is in high gain). Note the X2 has a large impedance hump in the bass area but still south of 45 ohms. This can result in even more bass out of the X2.

So probably you like cans with more bass presence. This may not always be your preference and may become old.

As far as hearing things inside or outside the cups, I'm not sure what to tell you. Soundstage is not something headphones do great in general. But I personally find my HD600 engaging. If you find the X2 more engaging then keep those..
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