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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2015, 03:03:02 AM »
hmm, we should clarify what we're discussing exactly, as the Hugo and the Leck are both DAC/amp units whereas the Vorzuge is a standalone amp. i'm considering upgrading my midfi headphone rig (LFF Paradox + O2/ODAC) to a Noble K10 for home use. the Hugo is one of the options i've been looking at, but it seems to be overpriced (DAC section specifically) and has a very unattractive design. my main choice right now is a Vorzuge Pure II, along with something like Wyrd + Modi 2. the Pure II and the Leckerton are the only amps with absolutely zero hiss when used with sensitive IEMs, and if they're similar in sound quality then i'll opt for the latter

you have any advice audiofrk? from the many reviews i've read, Noble K10 outperforms a well driven HD800 in many departments (not soundstage obviously), at a much cheaper price point since one doesn't have to spend another $2k on DAC and amp. if anyone has a good reason as to why a IEM-based desktop rig is worse than a traditional headphone setup, i would love to hear it
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #121 on: April 03, 2015, 03:51:36 AM »
Having not heard the K10 myself, I can't say this with any more confidence than a simple, half-assed guess, but. I don't see the K10 being an all-around upgrade to the Paradox, unless you just don't like the sound signature of the Paradox.

Perhaps a few more people who have heard both can elaborate on why this IEM is a considerable upgrade over the Paradox, but I don't even think most full-sized headphones are a real upgrade to the Paradox until they can match or beat the technical performance of something like the HE-560s. And even then, you have to consider whether their stock tonality is appropriate and how well you can mold the tonality of the headphone to achieve a good balance.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2015, 04:04:20 AM »
@fillerup

I have to ask have you heard the noble k10? and what was it that you liked from it? The paradox are really good and I actually auditioned the entire noble line except the k10  facepalm.

You think you need more technicality or are you looking for a set-up you could use at home and on the go?  Either lets break it down

noble k10 - $1500
hugo- $2500
vorzuge or lekerton- $500 or $300

total=$4500 or $4300

thats a bit much don't you think?

or
modi 2 + wyrd= $200
vorzuge or lekerton = $500 or $300
total = $700 or $500

What do you feel like is the weakest point of your setup? And what did you think that the n10 can do for you? 

Maybe we can help you tune it without getting rid of your whole setup.

by the way with all the amps I tested I heard no hiss in my custom Ultimate Ears Reference Monitors.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2015, 06:42:17 AM »
Quote from: fillerup on April 03, 2015, 03:03:02 AM

you have any advice audiofrk? from the many reviews i've read, Noble K10 outperforms a well driven HD800 in many departments (not soundstage obviously), at a much cheaper price point since one doesn't have to spend another $2k on DAC and amp. if anyone has a good reason as to why a IEM-based desktop rig is worse than a traditional headphone setup, i would love to hear it

You got links to these hd800 experts? That is just ignorant nonsense. Its just cheaper and easier to get a good rig for IEMs. Maxed out potential, no contest versus hd800.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2015, 08:03:00 AM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on April 03, 2015, 06:42:17 AM
You got links to these hd800 experts? That is just ignorant nonsense. Its just cheaper and easier to get a good rig for IEMs. Maxed out potential, no contest versus hd800.


Did your UERMs have any aspect that did better than the HD800?
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2015, 08:28:03 AM »
Quote from: knerian on April 03, 2015, 08:03:00 AM

Did your UERMs have any aspect that did better than the HD800?

They isolate better .









 :)p8
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2015, 08:37:15 AM »
Quote from: Sorrodje on April 03, 2015, 08:28:03 AM
They isolate better .









 :)p8

Pretty much it. That, and they can fit in your pocket.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #127 on: April 03, 2015, 08:59:54 AM »
haha i wasn't meaning those two.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #128 on: April 03, 2015, 09:10:49 AM »
They are lighter

They are more comfortable

They look like hearing aids rather than a Star Trek prop reject? (Maybe debatable)
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #129 on: April 03, 2015, 11:09:07 AM »
Anax: this might sound blasphemous to the HD800 owners here (like 110% of you guys? i signed up here when i was researching them) but K10 > HD800 is a common sentiment expressed by the majority of owners who have auditioned both



audiofrk: i love the Paradox, but i want a more 'open' sound/bigger soundstage and more details first and foremost. the Paradox bass is also not the best imo, it doesn't come effortlessly and i have to slightly strain my ears to notice it. HD800 was my main choice until i read about the K10. them being IEMs also give me much more options in terms of usage, but i'm focusing on the sound quality for now. and yeah the Hugo is out of the question
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