no more pm3 impressions

I listen to the pm3 the best way to describe it is polite.  The soundstage is small the detail retrival is minimal it will never disagree with a song but it won't wow you either.  Like I said the focal spirit pro was better.


my award for the biggest missed opportunity goes to the nighthawk.

it was the most comfortable headphone I ever used and the best looking but as for the sound? here is what I said in another thread:

I dont know why people keep saying that the nighthawk is a step up from the hd650, the tremble is still there it doesn't fade away.  The bass is so strong that it kind of hides the mids and the highs so that every now and again it peaks thru kind of like a kidnapped person screams.  I keep telling people that it felt like the sound wave was inversed the bass hit you first, then the mids, and finaly the tremble.  And this was out of a hugo.  Hugos aren't know for their strong bass. 


Its a shame when the tremble and mids did peek thru they were pretty good, if they fixed it I wouldn' just recomend the headphone I'd buy it day 1.

Finally got around to type up my impressions:

First, it was great seeing you all again and meeting the new and putting a face on the username!

HE-1000:  The most anticipated piece of gear to hear and the most disappointing. Some technical aspects were better than my HE-6 but it didn't sound like a complete headphone. Fang as a lot of stuff to work on if he really thinks he can sell it for 3k. The demo rig and music selection he had did him no favors either. I also had a really hard time borrowing it from the booth to try on Marv's rig. Shoved my modded HE-6 in Fang's face and told him this is still the true benchmark! All I want is a true upgrade to HE-6, but some of you guys say there will be one which isn't and HE-1000. I guess there's hope.

Dharma: Having not heard any news about this thing before, I was pleasantly surprised after I gave it a listen. I like the presentation (spot on Clem and Marv!). It's got the speed and details in the high which I like. The down side is the bass was a bit bloomy. The guys at the booth were pretty cool saying "holy shit this guy likes our headphone!" It was a good laugh.

Nighthawk: Didn't know about this headphone before the meet and I was pretty disgusted when I heard it on their demo rig. Is this thing worth $10?! It's supposed to be pretty good on a nice rig though. Will have to revisit, but my hopes aren't high.

Vinnie Rossi: Didn't know about this modular DAC/amp beforehand either (yup, I'm out of the loop). This thing surprised me. The AIO unit impressed me as it was very clean sounding and imaged well (very important to me). I wish they could bypass their tube section. ~3k for an AIO is not bad at all.

N3rlding's R10: Holy shit the mids on that thing are AMAZING!!! It sounded really funky because of the closed cell foam, but those mids just overtook everything. It was REAL because it had the best imaging I've ever heard. I really hope that type of sound could be replicated in a modern headphone that doesn't cost an insane amount.

Best part about any meet is seeing you guys though! 

Finally got around to type up my impressions:

First, it was great seeing you all again and meeting the new and putting a face on the username!

HE-1000:  The most anticipated piece of gear to hear and the most disappointing. Some technical aspects were better than my HE-6 but it didn't sound like a complete headphone. Fang as a lot of stuff to work on if he really thinks he can sell it for 3k. The demo rig and music selection he had did him no favors either. I also had a really hard time borrowing it from the booth to try on Marv's rig. Shoved my modded HE-6 in Fang's face and told him this is still the true benchmark! All I want is a true upgrade to HE-6, but some of you guys say there will be one which isn't and HE-1000. I guess there's hope.

Dharma: Having not heard any news about this thing before, I was pleasantly surprised after I gave it a listen. I like the presentation (spot on Clem and Marv!). It's got the speed and details in the high which I like. The down side is the bass was a bit bloomy. The guys at the booth were pretty cool saying "holy shit this guy likes our headphone!" It was a good laugh.

Nighthawk: Didn't know about this headphone before the meet and I was pretty disgusted when I heard it on their demo rig. Is this thing worth $10?! It's supposed to be pretty good on a nice rig though. Will have to revisit, but my hopes aren't high.

Vinnie Rossi: Didn't know about this modular DAC/amp beforehand either (yup, I'm out of the loop). This thing surprised me. The AIO unit impressed me as it was very clean sounding and imaged well (very important to me). I wish they could bypass their tube section. ~3k for an AIO is not bad at all.

N3rlding's R10: Holy shit the mids on that thing are AMAZING!!! It sounded really funky because of the closed cell foam, but those mids just overtook everything. It was REAL because it had the best imaging I've ever heard. I really hope that type of sound could be replicated in a modern headphone that doesn't cost an insane amount.

Best part about any meet is seeing you guys though! 

Did you try OJ's HD-800 (Anax 3.0) on Marv's setup? That is definitely the best imaging / staging I've heard. I didn't really enjoy the R10. To lean for me  .
So you actually liked the LIO? It was a disappointment for me as it lacked depth and was brighter than anticipated. Vinnie was nice and comprehensive, though. I like his Italian style  .

So the Dharma's crossover is actually 10k? Then I shall go back on my words: the cross-over is not that well integrated, as I could hear the treble was disconnected with the rest.

i knew the leckerton is good but this is impressive. have you ever listened to the Chord Hugo?

Hugo is inferior. I actually still rank the Leck ahead of audiofrk's ranking myself.