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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #100 on: March 31, 2015, 09:07:07 PM »

That was Alex  / AZ here. You should definitely talk to him more if you are interested in this stuff.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #101 on: March 31, 2015, 09:23:22 PM »


Any thoughts on the ALO RX or Cavalli portable compared to the UHA-6S?
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #102 on: March 31, 2015, 09:43:00 PM »

Ok, so who is it that I met who had the modded PM1s at Purrin's table? We had an awesome talk about psychoacoustics, neutrality, etc...find me bro  :)p17
   Hi there,
  Good to know you are here  :)p1 Pm was sent... .
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #103 on: April 01, 2015, 12:44:53 AM »

Anybody hear the Kingsound stats and amps? Any impressions? For the price, I'm interested :)
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #104 on: April 01, 2015, 02:59:44 AM »

Late on the draw with this, as I was too much of a zombie after getting back home last night to write anything even semi-coherent. Cool to meet some of you.  :)p14


Yggy: I listened to Yggy quite a bit over the two day duration of the event, as I needed to decide if I was going to purchase one. It sounded pretty rough Saturday morning: thinnish, kinda dry and grainy...off. By Saturday 5pm it was much improved. Fast forward to late Sunday afternoon and I was back again with Schiit’s Rag/Yggy setup (I own a Rag, thus I wanted to reference this setup vs. Marv really yummy EC 2A3). Conclusion: Jaw dropping - loads of staging cues that I’ve never heard before, low level detail that I’ve never heard before, incredible impact, dimensionality, texture, growl...and this was with show noise going on around me. Insane. Returning back home to Gungnir has been tough.

HE-1000: After Yggy, this was my most anticipated new release of the show. Ultimately I was disappointed, especially after referencing Ohhgourami’s modded HE-6 back to back with the HE-1K (thanks man). The HE-1K sounded marginally faster and more transparent to me (edging a bit closer to stats territory), but the soundstage lacked depth and there seemed to be a bit of microetch in the definition region (not sure if this was a source issue). Bass quality wasn’t better to my ear than the HE-6 off of the EF-1000 demo amp. No balls with the demo setup. The HE-1K’s tonality was definitely a step up in the right direction from the stock HE-6, but not nearly enough of an upgrade over a modded HE-6 to justify the real problem - the $3000 price. HFM’s amp/source probably wasn’t helping the situation, and I didn’t get a chance to hear it off of any other amps. I’ll have wait for further evaluation from the pyrates on this one. Mods and proper power/sourcing could probably address some of my gripes.

Audioquest Nighthawk: Almost unlistenable through AQ’s demo setup (WA7/Dragonfly 1.2). Colored and muddy, with a upper/mid bass boost and a significant upper-mid/low treble dip, pulling back up to the definition region. I felt like I was wading through a swamp. Trustworthy pyrates seemed to think well of it off of Marv’s reference rig, so I’m willing to give it another try. Great design, but damn...really poor showing with what I heard it on. Sidenote: some fool was informing Skylar that it needed more bass right before I jumped in for a listen.

EnigmaAcoustics Dharma: I enjoyed this quite a bit, overall presentation was very much to my taste: spacious, clarity/separation on the top end. Fit needed work, as it wouldn’t seal above my ears, which they claimed they’re going to address. I demo’d it twice, once on Saturday, and again on Sunday when there were less people. As with the HE-1000, the upstream gear was an issue, making it tough to meaningfully get a sense of what the headphone was capable of. They had a stock HD800 to compare with on Sunday, and the HD800 sounded like shit off of their amp/dac (thin, no bass body). I tend to listen to slow/pretty music, so I didn’t hear much in terms of speed issues in regards to the low end of the FR that some of the lvl 40 pyrates picked up on. Crossover is at 10K apparently, and seemed well integrated.

Mr. Speakers Ether: These were better than I anticipated. I listened to them on a variety of setups (Dan got them on a lot of other tables); they always sounded at least decent. I thought Dan did a great job with the tonality, neutralish and slightly warm. Good stage size for a planar. Sub bass extension seemed to be a weak point, especially when compared with the LCD’s. Comfort and weight were great. All this said, I’d feel much better if they were priced at 1k, vs. 1.5k.

Bill P’s Modded LCD- 2.2: Really nice job with this mod, more linear than any LCD-2 I’ve heard thus far. It made me tempted to go buy one (again) just to mess with it. Hermetic seal those pads Bill!  ;)

Anax 3.0 mod: Look mom! I can listen to the HD800 at high volume off of the Mojo without my ears bleeding! Want.

Vinnie Rossi LIO amp: Modular ultracapacitor SS/Tube hybrid. Spacious staging and some tube wetness, without striking me as mushy or too soft. Nice balance between romance/directness, good impact. Not sure how it compares to other amps in this price range (it’s not cheap), but I really enjoyed my time with it.

ALO Audio Studio Six: I don’t know why this amp garners as much praise as it does. Sounded harsh with the HD800, price struck me as a huge problem.

Cavalli Liquid Silicon: A fitting new product name for a show introduction in LA. I didn’t spend a lot of time with it (I’m more of a desktop gear guy), but it had enough balls to drive Bill’s LCD-2 with satisfying bass impact. Smooth, slightly laid back and effortless sound with the LCD-2. Not sure how it stacks up with sensitive IEM’s but it struck me as nice for a portable amp for full size cans.

Audeze EL8: Listened to both versions...didn’t care for either one. The closed version had hardness in the lower treble that I couldn’t get passed. Bass seemed less mushy than the open version, but didn’t have as much body. The open version reminded me a bit of the LCD-2 when driven off of a craptastic amp: kinda sloppy/loose, slightly grainy and too dark. No dice.

LFF’s headphones: I was able to finally get up to speed on a number of models that I hadn’t heard. Really nice, excellent value. Screw the EL8, buy a Paradox. Probably not much reason to reiterate what’s already been said elsewhere on the forum, but they’re an easy recommendation if looking for closed headphones. The Code-X was also badass...didn’t anticipate hearing it at the show, but boy I’m glad I did.

Modded Abyss: This headphone did a lot of things right, not perfection, but about as good as it gets in certain area’s (dat bass) - goofy design, way too expensive, but a very memorable listening experience. Thanks to Bill for showing me how to get the fit right - made a significant difference.

Frank Cooters Tube Amp W/009: A very interesting counterpoint to the HA Blue Hawaii, more romanticized to my ear, but also more body, which I personally preferred. Beautiful works of audio art.

Dragon Inspire IHA-1 (Moon Audio booth): Not sure wtf was going on at the Moon Audio booth, but all was not well. When I first listened, Drew had the gain turned up on the Chord Hugo, resulting in all kinds of crazy distortion. After I addressed him and got him to turn the DAC gain down, the amp had zero headroom. With maxed volume, the LCD-3 was way too quiet for my normal listening level. First amp I’ve ever had that issue with, really weird experience. Sounded flat and lifeless to me with the Hugo...still not sure if the problem was with Drew, with the amp, or both.

Wells Audio Headphone Amp (don’t remember the model name):Sounded excellent with the LCD-3, but at $7000, they can blow it out their rear end.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2015, 03:19:55 AM »

Yggy: I listened to Yggy quite a bit over the two day duration of the event, as I needed to decide if I was going to purchase one. It sounded pretty rough Saturday morning: thinnish, kinda dry and grainy...off. By Saturday 5pm it was much improved. Fast forward to late Sunday afternoon and I was back again with Schiit’s Rag/Yggy setup (I own a Rag, thus I wanted to reference this setup vs. Marv really yummy EC 2A3). Conclusion: Jaw dropping - loads of staging cues that I’ve never heard before, low level detail that I’ve never heard before, incredible impact, dimensionality, texture, growl...and this was with show noise going on around me. Insane. Returning back home to Gungnir has been tough.

Nice impressions, what headphone did you try the Yggy with?
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #106 on: April 01, 2015, 03:25:01 AM »

Nice impressions, what headphone did you try the Yggy with?

Primarily the HD800 on the Rag, but also LCD-3. I own the former and am pretty familiar with the later. I tried more out with Yggy at Marv's display with the EC 2A3 (Abyss, Paradox, Code-X, etc)
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #107 on: April 01, 2015, 04:36:35 AM »

This was a terrible disappointing show.  If things keep going like this I am pretty sure head-fi industry is heading for a collapse.  Out of all the vendors (granted I didn't listen to everything) only five had anything worth listening to and only two of them were actually new designs.*  With most the vendors having new gear you would think that some of it would be good but nope it pretty much all sucked or was super expensive.  80% of the gear was herald as the gear for the next generation of head-fiers ugh.  None of the new headphones are worth purchasing and their tunning was horrific and massive amounts of compromise where made. 

To be honest if your looking to set up a new mid-fi rig don't, get a good low end and save your money for a high end set.  Get the o2 dac/amp, none of the other stuff  up to $600 is worth the price increase at most you'd get like 5-7% increase in sound quality.  You want open back? get the phillips x2.  You want closed back? get the focal spirit pro.  Guess what you can run both out of anything from an iphone to the liquid carbon.  Feeling flush and want a open back? get hd800 want a closed back paradox slants.  Want a stats like sound from a normal amp PM Bill-p and ask about his s10 mod (you don't even need a dedicated amp).  The dharma, he-1000, ether aren't  worth their price and the LCDs are super unconfortable for their price.  Want and amp with no roll off? Liquid carbon. like some roll off? DNA sonnet 2.  Need a better dac WAIT!!! the Yggdrasil's roots will reach the lower realms, including midgar. 

The other disappointment of the show when the pirate lords sat down for dinner they didn't pull out there 9 pieces of 8.


*yggdrasil, phillips x2, o2 dac/amp, cavalli anything,focal spirit pro.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #108 on: April 01, 2015, 07:20:42 AM »

Before my work schedule sets in completely and puts me into a whirlwind, I would like to thank Purrin and LFF for allowing me to demo the Yggy/EC 2A3/ Code-X for an extended time on Sunday. While this set up doesn't have the soundstage like R10 or speed of stat, it has the sweetest mid-range that I crave for. I'm not sure if it's each component or the combination of three that makes it so.
And thank you to OJ and Anax for bringing Anax 3 HD800, great improvement from Anax 2.0.
And thank you to all new friends I've met and had dinner/breakfast with, especially Bill with his measurement knowledge. I hope to hear some prototype of the Odin in the near future, before the sun explodes.
@audiofrk: it was a great pleasure listening to your pirate talk on Saturday.
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Re: CanJam SoCal 2015 March 28-29 Impressions Thread
« Reply #109 on: April 01, 2015, 03:06:36 PM »

Yggy: I listened to Yggy quite a bit over the two day duration of the event, as I needed to decide if I was going to purchase one. It sounded pretty rough Saturday morning: thinnish, kinda dry and grainy...off. By Saturday 5pm it was much improved. Fast forward to late Sunday afternoon and I was back again with Schiit’s Rag/Yggy setup (I own a Rag, thus I wanted to reference this setup vs. Marv really yummy EC 2A3). Conclusion: Jaw dropping - loads of staging cues that I’ve never heard before, low level detail that I’ve never heard before, incredible impact, dimensionality, texture, growl...and this was with show noise going on around me. Insane. Returning back home to Gungnir has been tough.

I know it's in a noisy show, but could you tell me a bit on the difference between the 2a3 and rag on yggy with hd800. Is there a 2500$ improvement over the rag? :P
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