Topic: Alpha Dog Prime - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements (Read 16291 times)

Claritas · « **Reply #90 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:42:27 AM »

Quote from: mrspeakers on February 25, 2015, 12:37:33 AM

Because everyone who heard it said it sucks eggs.

That doesn't mean it's broken: that just means it sucks.

No_One411 · « **Reply #91 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:44:27 AM »

Quote from: Claritas on February 25, 2015, 12:42:27 AM

That doesn't mean it's broken: that just means it sucks.

Just a little bit rude...

Claritas · « **Reply #92 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:50:23 AM »

Dan obviously didn't think it sucked when he sent it back to you. But now that some people dislike it, "Oh well, there must be something wrong with that particular pair . . ." Maybe--but maybe not.

I'm keeping an open mind; I'll hear it at Axpona.

kapanak · « **Reply #93 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:55:35 AM »

If it helps, I owned both the Alpha Dogs and Mad Dogs 2014 versions from Headphone Bar in Vancouver. I heard two versions of the Alpha Prime recently, and I posted a very brief impressions somewhere on Head-Fi.

Edit: Here http://www.head-fi.org/t/755078/best-sub-1k-closed-circumaural-suggestions-please/15#post_11325413

Marvey · « **Reply #94 on:** February 25, 2015, 12:59:20 AM »

@Dan: I'd love to swing by; but I moved an hour and a half up north from Irvine. Also my headphone listening rig is about 150lbs worth of transport, DAC, and custom tube amp. :-) I'm sure we'll find an opportunity one day.

On the repaired Alpha Dog: I guess it's possible the repaired pair sent down was damaged in shipping. I think it's important to remain open-minded.

Anyways no biggie. Some random person just contacted me. He's sending his Alpha Dogs to me.

TMRaven · « **Reply #95 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:02:59 AM »

Whatever the solution is, I'd just like to hear a good pair approved by Dan himself so I can get the most accurate idea of what the Alpha Prime is supposed to be like. Whether that involves Dan sending an extra Pair he himself personally finds successful to No_One or anybody else on this Touring list, or the original gets sent back (again), and is replaced by the new one. No_One obviously deserves better as the owner of a 1,000 dollar pair of headphones.

I personally will undoubtedly be posting whatever impressions I make of the Alpha Prime on the head-fi thread, and I wouldn't want to wrongfully trash the Alpha Prime by reviewing a stinker unit-- or, if it were lousy sounding in the first place, I can at least say that Dan backs it. No insult intended there, I just want to be truthful when making the impressions public. If 2 or 3 pair are sent out, and they sound differently, I think it'd be nice to let people know that there are issues of production variation as well.

kapanak · « **Reply #96 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:15:05 AM »

Quote from: Orenthal on February 25, 2015, 01:05:13 AM

WOWZA! Great writeup man. You sort of some crucial buried there - seems all the golden nuggets on HF are that way. Seems like you are experiencing the same issues people pointed out here.

I didn't want to post it more publicly, since I did not purchase either one of the Alpha Primes myself, and I tend to only bash things I paid money for lol

But in this case, I think it's important people make an informed decision. $1000 is a lot of money. So I posted it in the impressions thread.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/737566/mrspeakers-alpha-prime-impressions-and-discussion-thread/1170#post_11355279

DrForBin · « **Reply #97 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:33:55 AM »

Quote from: mrspeakers on February 25, 2015, 12:41:07 AM

That's a polite shift to "I think this is more fair."

Testing will be done with Marv and I present and the test systems will be accessible to both of us, as will the headphones in questions, and we can directly compare results.

EDIT: I appreciated your suggestion, but I think open, fair and transparent testing is best for everyone.

hello,

not to be mean spirited but it is a no.

the issue seems to be that on "independent" measuring rigs these cans have problems.

a suggestion is made to include more pairs of 'phones, more pairs of ears and more ways to measure and the vendor responds with an invitation to a closed environment with two sets of measurement equipment (in-house and carried in at marvey's risk and expense) and two pairs of ears.

that is NOT what i would call "open, fair and transparent testing."

i am detecting a reluctance on the vendor's part to submit his products for that kind of testing.

Marvey · « **Reply #98 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:39:31 AM »

I understand the concern about consistency issues. Pads, how they are deformed, how headphones are placed on rigs, even a mm makes a difference. I've gotten it down pat by now. It's just a matter of experience. So has Tyll. We all have our own techniques to ensure consistent results. Heck, send them over to Tyll too.

See this thread: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,39.0.html

and this post: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,362.msg5796.html#msg5796 (sorry, prior post was wrong one)

I've heard all the bullshit excuses before, i.e. "but but but, the measurements will be different every time"; and I've always said, the measures DO need to be compared relatively - that is apples to apples.

DrForBin · « **Reply #99 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:51:10 AM »

hello,

@marvey + 348.

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