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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2015, 06:11:58 PM »

Skylake will be out in 2nd half of this year. I highly recommend waiting for it. Haswell runs really hot because of the FIVR. I know I'm ditching my Haswell rig once Skylake is out.

I have a Haswell rig and I'm pleased with its performance though it definitely runs hot when pushed. Skylake should be nice but I'm also waiting for some of the PCIE, M2, DDR4, USB 3.1 etc changes to play out. My Haswell rig is killer for what I need to do so I'm going to be watching and waiting.
For a new buyer (electropop) I'd definitely wait.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2015, 06:35:17 PM »

All this talk makes me want to finally buy some nice big Noctua fans. My case is a Nanoxia Deep Silence 2.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2015, 08:38:34 PM »

Haswell does run fine for now, but I just like upgrading every over generation. Skylake is being hyped by Intel as the greatest chip in the last 10 years so I think it's worth checking out.

PCI-e SSDs have really caught my attention lately. Intel is rumoured to release the 750 which is supposed to be consumer version of the P3700 or rebadged P3500.

For your DS2, you'll need to buy 2x NF-A14 PWM and 2x NF-S12A PWM fans. S12A's go in the front of your case with the filters removed and A14's with one to the top-front position and one on the bottom next to the PSU. A side fan would also help but I can't tell whats the mounting hole size. No rear fan needed; get a nibbler tool and gut out that rear grill.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2015, 09:47:11 AM »

I'm way too lazy to be upgrading every so often, especially when I'm not even reaping the benefits of my current i7. Some video renders could be quicker, but overall the system runs smooth and lag free.

That said, laziness also makes me wait. Skylake could be the thing, but third quarter, I dunno. Pretty set on a Valhalla 2, but not sure about the DAC yet. Will see how fast things develop.

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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2015, 03:52:08 PM »

Noctua are one of those companies that you pay a shitload for not a lot.  They're not significantly quieter than the competition and they generally don't undervolt gracefully.  If I were going for a 140mm fan, I'd take some Thermalright TY series fans.  They're literally identical in fan blade and frame profile to Noctua's 140mm offerings yet were significantly cheaper when I last checked.  I also prefer their tone characteristics over Noctua fans. 

If getting the best you can absolutely get is your thing, stuff from Noiseblocker (eg. eLoops) should be a similar price to Noctua mainline products but better performing in just about every worthwhile metric.

Don't even start on how much I hate those review sites. The reviewer is either deaf, testing on a busy street, or both. The Bitfenix are complete garbage. They need to give me money to take them.

The NF-A15 have a whiny tone at 1000rpm+ so it's recommended to limit them and overkill with the heatsink. It shines at lower rpm with good cooling, no ticks, and can drop down to 300rpm.

So I take it that the new A series doesn't have any of the problems the the P and F series have?  I might have to check them out because the P and F series were garbage.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2015, 04:27:11 PM »

Looking for second opinions on my current build, mainly worried if the cooling will be adequate:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=31226947

Only the CPU should ever be doing anything extremely intensive, namely video encoding/livestreaming; the GPU is for compatibility as I'll be using Photoshop, Google SketchUp, Blender, etc quite frequently and need lots of VRAM for multiple monitors

I have built and worked on several systems before but I've never done an ITX build so I'm not sure what to expect cooling wise, the Cryorig should be taking air in and the PSU fan should be pushing it out, which seems like it should work fairly well but I want to be sure cuz I put a really fucking powerful i7 in there (which I can underclock if need be)

oh, and OS is Server 2008 R2
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2015, 04:44:23 PM »

Noctua are one of those companies that you pay a shitload for not a lot.  They're not significantly quieter than the competition and they generally don't undervolt gracefully.  If I were going for a 140mm fan, I'd take some Thermalright TY series fans.  They're literally identical in fan blade and frame profile to Noctua's 140mm offerings yet were significantly cheaper when I last checked.  I also prefer their tone characteristics over Noctua fans. 

If getting the best you can absolutely get is your thing, stuff from Noiseblocker (eg. eLoops) should be a similar price to Noctua mainline products but better performing in just about every worthwhile metric.


Problem is who took the measurements for the 'metric'. I have tried fans with roughly equivalent 'metric'-s that perform nothing alike.

Regarding Themalright i agree that the TY are seriously quiet, but mine were unreliable, bearings or something inside produced really annoying ''click-click-click'' sounds after a year of use as CPU cooler.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2015, 06:28:12 PM »

Noctua are one of those companies that you pay a shitload for not a lot.  They're not significantly quieter than the competition and they generally don't undervolt gracefully.  If I were going for a 140mm fan, I'd take some Thermalright TY series fans.  They're literally identical in fan blade and frame profile to Noctua's 140mm offerings yet were significantly cheaper when I last checked.  I also prefer their tone characteristics over Noctua fans. 

If getting the best you can absolutely get is your thing, stuff from Noiseblocker (eg. eLoops) should be a similar price to Noctua mainline products but better performing in just about every worthwhile metric.

So I take it that the new A series doesn't have any of the problems the the P and F series have?  I might have to check them out because the P and F series were garbage.

I thought Noctua was highly overrated with the P and F series that people on OCN raved about. I was also using TY-140s at the time which have been replaced by the Noctuas. TY-140s were slightly clicky but had a good tone at higher RPMs. The A series doesn't have any of those issue that P and F series had which makes it shine at low RPM, only caveat is it's slightly whiny tone at high RPM which I limit so no big deal.

I've also tried the eLoops which were not that impressive. Quiet but very little airflow for what it was. You name it, I've tried it.
Looking for second opinions on my current build, mainly worried if the cooling will be adequate:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=31226947

Only the CPU should ever be doing anything extremely intensive, namely video encoding/livestreaming; the GPU is for compatibility as I'll be using Photoshop, Google SketchUp, Blender, etc quite frequently and need lots of VRAM for multiple monitors

I have built and worked on several systems before but I've never done an ITX build so I'm not sure what to expect cooling wise, the Cryorig should be taking air in and the PSU fan should be pushing it out, which seems like it should work fairly well but I want to be sure cuz I put a really fucking powerful i7 in there (which I can underclock if need be)

oh, and OS is Server 2008 R2

Depends how quiet you expect it to be. I'd consider it loud.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2015, 08:24:08 PM »

If getting the best you can absolutely get is your thing, stuff from Noiseblocker (eg. eLoops) should be a similar price to Noctua mainline products but better performing in just about every worthwhile metric.

Unfortunately the eLoop is a step back from the Multi-frame series. Noiseblocker describes the eLoop as a "mid grade" fan similar to their Black Silent Pro series, whereas the Multi-frame was a "top grade." The Multi-frames are VERY good fans, but AFAIK they never made a 140mm version, and I'm pretty sure they've been discontinued so they're not that easy to get.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2015, 08:28:53 PM »

Looking for second opinions on my current build, mainly worried if the cooling will be adequate:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=31226947

Only the CPU should ever be doing anything extremely intensive, namely video encoding/livestreaming; the GPU is for compatibility as I'll be using Photoshop, Google SketchUp, Blender, etc quite frequently and need lots of VRAM for multiple monitors

I have built and worked on several systems before but I've never done an ITX build so I'm not sure what to expect cooling wise, the Cryorig should be taking air in and the PSU fan should be pushing it out, which seems like it should work fairly well but I want to be sure cuz I put a really fucking powerful i7 in there (which I can underclock if need be)

oh, and OS is Server 2008 R2

Do you need ITX for a specific reason? ITX can be done quietly, but not like that. You simply need more space than you've got with that case. If you have no interest in low noise it will probably be adequate, but rather than underclocking which seems like you're basically flushing money down the toilet, why not get something a bit bigger so you can use a larger, and far more effective down draft cooler like a Phanteks or Noctua?
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