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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2014, 10:58:38 PM »

If budget is a thing, you may be better served with a non-reference 970. Just overclock it, and live with ~10% less performance and $200 more in your pocket versus a non-reference 980.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2015, 09:15:54 PM »

Updating a desktop setup starts from making things silent!

So I have the Haf X, which is very nice in that it's easy to configure and swap stuff. But it's loud as fuck and sitting 2-3ft from me. Also it's ugly and big, but I don't care about that...

I take it the Fractal Defines or Nanoxia Deep Sleep are the budget choice for silent towers with reasonable air flow? After this I think the point of diminishing returns hit in.

I have a GTX780 with the Asus Direct... ummm double fan stuff and a Noctua 12 or 14 model (can't remember) as the loudest components. Three HDD's and an SSD for disk requirements, so a full tower isn't necessary. Also I don't really overclock. I very seldomly update stuff, so easy setup isn't a prerequisite, but a nice addition.

Is there something that I've missed, or if I put in say up to 400eur/usd, can I get something significantly quieter?

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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2015, 09:27:00 PM »

You can keep that butt ugly HAF X and still keep it "silent".

I tend to keep away from "noise muffling" cases as you should be stopping noise from the source, not bandaiding it.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2015, 11:08:18 PM »

So water coolants for the gpu and cpu?

I've turned the top and side fans of the haf x to a minimum. Decent airflow still, but there's hardly anything in between the gpu and me so I can still hear it quite loudly.

What's wrong with noise muffling? I get that you'd want to optimize other things first, for a relatively hot running setup, but I keep my apartment pretty cool and don't do overclocking, so I think I'd be just fine with a bit of dampening material here and there instead of annoying static fan noise.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2015, 12:01:25 AM »

So water coolants for the gpu and cpu?

I've turned the top and side fans of the haf x to a minimum. Decent airflow still, but there's hardly anything in between the gpu and me so I can still hear it quite loudly.

What's wrong with noise muffling? I get that you'd want to optimize other things first, for a relatively hot running setup, but I keep my apartment pretty cool and don't do overclocking, so I think I'd be just fine with a bit of dampening material here and there instead of annoying static fan noise.

The Fractal and Nanoxia cases are reasonably quiet, but the airflow is pretty pitiful. If the GPU has to crank its fans up to compensate for the lack of incoming air, then it's just self defeating. What you want is a case that's got good airflow AND is quiet, like say the new Silverstone RV/FT05. I don't particularly like the design or the uber cheap construction, but it does work.

I also suspect the fans used in the HAF (assuming they are stock) are a major part of the problem. You can't just turn any old fan down to the minimum speed and expect it to be quiet. Delta fans at 5V are not quiet. What you need are some Noiseblockers or Scythes on the case.

Watercooling IMO is totally unnecessary, and "silent" water cooling is largely a myth. First of all the radiators are gonna have fans on them, so there's no getting away from fans no matter what you do. And if you go with one of the Asetek closed loop rebadges, it's total luck of the draw on the pump. Some of them are pretty quiet, some of them make a total racket.

If you're not that into overclocking, there's absolutely zero need to water cool the CPU. A stock or near stock CPU can easily be run dead silent with a good Noctua, Prolimatech, BeQuiet, or Thermalright tower cooler. Just turn the fan down, and/or get a good one (see above) for coolers that don't already come with fans.

For the GPU, just stick an Artic Cooling on it. Noise problem solved.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2015, 02:39:33 AM »

hello,

good source for reviews of CPU coolers, measures performance and noise.

http://www.frostytech.com/
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2015, 04:45:25 AM »

Well if you don't overclock I would change the case and get the new Fractal Define R5, GTX 780 don't heat at all, for the CPU cooler you could get some nice one from noctua or even an hyper 212X, I guess the hyper 212X will be more than enough, I have an cheap i3 with the cheapo Tx3 Evo and the cooler don't need to spind more than 25%.

Power suply tend to be really noisy too, there are some passive ones, although they're expensive, you could get one that don't spin the fan on idle, something like the RM from corsair. HDD may get noisy too, but there isn't a lot that you can do.

Ow, just one more thing, don't use screws to screw the fans on the case, use something like this -> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-MX003-Siliconized-Rubber-Pins/dp/B003N7YZLC
Although some guys don't think that these rubber pin work, I disagree  :P

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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2015, 05:11:28 AM »

Power suply tend to be really noisy too, there are some passive ones, although they're expensive, you could get one that don't spin the fan on idle, something like the RM from corsair. HDD may get noisy too, but there isn't a lot that you can do.

Actually there's quite a bit that can be done with HDDs. The most effective solution is a completely sealed enclosure that fits in a 5.25" bay, but those are pretty hard to come by these days since those after silent computers have moved to SSDs. The next best thing would be to rig up some kind of rubber band suspension system sort of like what Antec did in the Sonata cases IIRC. A significant amount of the noise that you get with platter drives comes from the vibration transfer to the case as opposed to noise from the drive itself.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2015, 05:53:01 AM »

Best way to manage heat and noise from a GPU is to move to a Maxwell architecture.
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Re: Building a new gaming PC.
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2015, 08:05:09 AM »

Goodness no! Don't bother with watercooling. Anyone who tells you watercooling is quieter than air (except for very high OCs) is obviously deaf. You're still using fans and pumps make noise.

Skip stock GPU cooling and go for big aftermarket air. Get a Prolimatech MK-26 or Raijintek Morpheus if you're serious about having a truly quiet setup. Strap some Noctua NF-S12A PWM fans controlled with software at 400rpm and be done with it. My GTX980 won't go past 60C with the fans spinning at 600rpm for max load benching. You will always be able to use the cooler when you upgrade GPUs. Can probably run mine passive too.

For HDDs, you try to avoid them as much as possible. If you can't, smother them with dense material to muffle the rotational noise, and hang on an elastic suspension to prevent vibrational noise. The new issue that comes up is heat as you're now smothering it. I have yet to solve that...

Any noise from CPU?
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