Topic: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements (Read 41145 times)

jerg · « **Reply #110 on:** July 30, 2014, 03:41:49 PM »

It seems the only real criticism for HE560 is it doesn't sound as "full" as the dual-ended Hifiman planars, which I do also feel is somewhat the case. Hard to say what "fullness" really is though, it doesn't seem to be a matter of the FR, maybe it's a specific decay pattern in the lower mids.

Conversely, at least with my HE500 one might say it doesn't have the agility in decay as HE560. So that perception of "fullness" goes both ways.

aufmerksam · « **Reply #111 on:** July 30, 2014, 04:12:28 PM »

Fair. I guess when I am saying "full" I am meaning "more complete representation of all sounds in a passage of music in a way that is audibly pleasant to me" but that seemed a bit too qualified under the scenario. I take your point well though, looking at the decay characteristics there is more stuff hanging around longer with the 500, adding to feeling of "full".

When you say dual-ended do you mean wired in balanced, or magnet arrays on both sides?

paranoidroid · « **Reply #112 on:** July 30, 2014, 07:26:32 PM »

When I compared the HE-560 to the HE-6 or my HE-500, the HE-560 sounds more 'polite' and less punchy/dynamic than those. Perhaps that's my own twist on what others refer to as 'full'. The difference in sound doesn't seem to be just represented by frequency response, so I'm not sure what causes this feeling either..

ohhgourami · « **Reply #113 on:** July 30, 2014, 08:37:20 PM »

I think polite might be the perfect way to describe it vs HE-6.

Hands · « **Reply #114 on:** July 31, 2014, 04:26:00 AM »

Hmm, the HE-500 with my modded/torn up alpha pads sounds quite polite compared to the HFM pads (any of them). I wonder how the HE-560 compares with that...and will continue to wonder until I get my hands on one.

jerg · « **Reply #115 on:** July 31, 2014, 11:01:01 AM »

Quote from: hans030390 on July 31, 2014, 04:26:00 AM

Hmm, the HE-500 with my modded/torn up alpha pads sounds quite polite compared to the HFM pads (any of them). I wonder how the HE-560 compares with that...and will continue to wonder until I get my hands on one.

Didn't the alpha pads measure the politest by Dan Clarke himself, when he tried it vs stock pads on HE500?

Hands · « **Reply #116 on:** July 31, 2014, 02:36:24 PM »

His measurements showed a rise in the mids and a lowering in the treble, more or less. Measurements I took of my torn up pair showed a filled in response around 1-3KHz, but also a bit of a 2-3KHz rise after. Bass was more linear and had less of a slight rise around 70Hz. Pretty similar otherwise. But, subjectively, the alpha pads just sound more polite, less thick and punchy, more ethereal, etc. I'm sure the HE-560 has a different presentation yet, but it would be an interesting comparison.

Kotomirage · « **Reply #117 on:** August 01, 2014, 12:38:17 AM »

Is it worth upgrading from HE-500s to these? I'm assuming there isn't a $900 difference between the two pairs

jerg · « **Reply #118 on:** August 01, 2014, 12:50:33 AM »

Quote from: Kotomirage on August 01, 2014, 12:38:17 AM

Is it worth upgrading from HE-500s to these? I'm assuming there isn't a $900 difference between the two pairs

You mean $300 ($600 vs $900). I do think so, the night-and-day improvement in comfort (weight as well as fit), and improvement in technicalities deem the price difference IMO. The only thing that might hold you back is the overall balance and presentation is very different between the two, HE560 is closer to HE6 in balance and speed than to HE500, neutral/dynamic vs warm/powerful.

There may be something that could rein HE560 much closer to HE500 in musicality, without loosing its finesse, but I have to do more testing to know for sure.

chetlanin · « **Reply #119 on:** August 04, 2014, 11:45:18 AM »

As you can see, Behringer has already developed an EQ unit for the HE560, the MiniFBQ! Or did Hifiman develope the 560 to work with the Behringer?! I almost considered posting this in the humor thread (not expeting to be taken seriously anway) , but in fact there is no reason why the thing should not give the 560 a considerable performance boost.(knowledgeable people will look away from the low price and the cheap design, I suppose..).

BTW, one should rather consider the thing an extended tone control unit, it is not for flattening every small bump and dip, of course.

( Personally I often use analogue sources, so digital eq does not suite me well, others may be in the same boat. This thing works very well with my ESP950, cleaning up the sound amazingly well, getting rid of the excessive response at 1k and somewhat downwards from that).

And the 560? My guess: A sligth reduction in the 4k area will improve resolution/transparency. A slight general increase in the bass region will give som more real world grunt (but don't expect miracles) and improve the overall balance. LIfting the 2k region a bit will primarely suite those who play accoustical music at moderate levels. (Funny if somebody could try it out, I may do it later).

Cheers, Olaf

(it is 100 USD or smth).

P.S:
Electronics are like food, 50% is about looks.( Don't look at this while listening!!)

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