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Eric_C

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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #90 on: July 15, 2014, 11:55:52 PM »
Quote from: marvey on July 15, 2014, 08:54:34 PM
A little bit of that bite is always going to be there. I would say that with the new pads, recording / upstream equipment would certainly be a concern.

It was much more mellow with the older pads where I didn't think it was an issue. The production headphones with pre-production pads were the most mellow combination.

HE-400 or DT880 is more sizzle than bite.

Thanks marv, that's very reassuring to hear. I'll keep these on my radar (and LFF's Enigma ^_^)
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2014, 03:49:39 AM »
Hm, I bet the same material I used to tame the edge of my HD600 would work well for the HFM headphones (thin sheet of open-cell foam). I do plan on experimenting with this in the future on my HE-500. I have a huge sheet of the material because it's super cheap.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #92 on: July 17, 2014, 01:27:48 AM »
Quote from: anetode on July 13, 2014, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: Eric_C on July 13, 2014, 01:00:37 PM
Iiiiinteresting...

It can play them loud but not ridiculously loud. Same for Vali.

Thanks!

I have finally decided to replace my Mjolnir with the Lyr 2. 

Can't wait to try the 560s with the Lyr 2!
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #93 on: July 17, 2014, 08:43:01 AM »
Just tried a production HE-560 with WA7. Much nicer than the mess i tried at that other shop. But now I'm confused as to what the "real" sound of this headphone is.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #94 on: July 17, 2014, 08:55:40 AM »
Differences between FocusPad A (pre production) and FocusPad (post production) on HE-6:

Comfort: I liked the texture of the original HE-6 velours (clear plastic ring) more, but these have a better fit on the head. I think the rings are a bit small but very tolerable. My gripe (big gripe) about these is the texture of the "velour", they make my ears fuckin' ITCHY! The inner lip for the pre pads touch the back of my ear and it's UNBEARABLE!

Sound: Pre pads are warmer and slightly tamer on the lower treble. These seems like the choice for most people who feel the HE-6 are a tad "bright". Seems to make it seem a bit mushier. The post production pads are crisper. Reminds me of the original velours a lot, but with a larger soundstage and better imaging. Both pre and post have the same soundstage and imaging.

Of the two, I prefer the post production pads as I don't like the warmer, mushier sound. I'm still sticking to my Vegans as they sound better - bigger sound stage, better impact, way more comfortable at the slight expense (if there is any) of maybe imaging and veil.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #95 on: July 17, 2014, 04:05:15 PM »
heh, you are coming from the HE-6, so I can definitely see you preferring the post prod. pads. Any issues with the slight measured bump at 3-4k?
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #96 on: July 17, 2014, 06:34:35 PM »
Slight 3-4k bump is noticeable but I don't find it fatiguing. Gives a nice sense of cleanliness to the sound but makes it a bit lean.

Signature wise, it sounds almost the same as a stock velour HE-6 so that bump might be too much for most.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #97 on: July 21, 2014, 02:40:20 AM »
I wish you guys were closer. I'd like to do a mini meet to compare the Klone vs the Mjolnir with the HE-560. I wish I had been able to get some serious time with them at the meet.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #98 on: July 28, 2014, 04:32:11 PM »
First post  :)p6 , hopefully in the right thread:

HELP, why are my HE-560 noticeably less loud than my HE-500? Have loved the HE-500 for a loooong time, and was excited to try out HE-560, based on the measurements seen so far and the subjective reviews.

Got the HE-560 on Friday, tried them out of the same amp, at the same volume, playing the same tracks as with the HE-500, and total volume, not just a piece of the spectrum, is palpably less than the HE-500. Based on all I have read so far, I thought that the perceived loudness would be very similar between these two, have I missed something?

I don't believe in cables or burn-in, but I did a round robin with all hifiman cables I have (stock 500, stock 560, homemade mogami 2893), and I let the 560's run all weekend with pink noise, JUST to confirm there are no other confounds.

With the lower impedance, and (barely) higher sensitivity, shouldn't the 560 be louder, inputs being the same? I am trying to compare / contrast the two, but I FEEL LIKE I AM TAKING CRAZY PILLS, and cannot get past this.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #99 on: July 28, 2014, 04:53:50 PM »
Quote from: aufmerksam on July 28, 2014, 04:32:11 PM
First post  :)p6 , hopefully in the right thread:

HELP, why are my HE-560 noticeably less loud than my HE-500? Have loved the HE-500 for a loooong time, and was excited to try out HE-560, based on the measurements seen so far and the subjective reviews.

Got the HE-560 on Friday, tried them out of the same amp, at the same volume, playing the same tracks as with the HE-500, and total volume, not just a piece of the spectrum, is palpably less than the HE-500. Based on all I have read so far, I thought that the perceived loudness would be very similar between these two, have I missed something?

I don't believe in cables or burn-in, but I did a round robin with all hifiman cables I have (stock 500, stock 560, homemade mogami 2893), and I let the 560's run all weekend with pink noise, JUST to confirm there are no other confounds.

With the lower impedance, and (barely) higher sensitivity, shouldn't the 560 be louder, inputs being the same? I am trying to compare / contrast the two, but I FEEL LIKE I AM TAKING CRAZY PILLS, and cannot get past this.

You're not the only one.  It seems the HE-560s are less efficient than the HE-500s, perhaps due to the single-ended driver design (one magnet array per, vs. two magnets per on the HE-500s; thus, the weight difference).  I'm curious to hear the HE-560s, once HFM processes my return of my defective HE-500s.  Since those were the cans I used the most, I'm pretty familiar where the volume knob was for certain songs.

As long as your amp can drive them properly, I wouldn't sweat the volume knob position.
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